Philbin was right to run out the clock at the end of the half.....

[DZimmer000]

and get into the locker room, regroup and make some adjustments
- our line was getting beat badly at that point
- Its not popular decision but it was the right one and they moved the ball at start the second half.

- All you arm chair QBs would be complaining either way if things went wrong- if Tannehill is sacked, throws a pick or is stripped of the ball, or its 3 quick incomplete passes and forced to punt, bills get the ball back an score you guys would be complaining about that coaching strategy
- Also I don't believe Lazor's read option on 4th and short was a bad call. QB had some open field,bills SS just made a great play- again if that worked people would be talkin about the great call on 4th down

Wow..... To me, it's EXACTLY this kind of mentality from our head coach that keeps us from being a good football team.

Look..... You only get so much time with the football in this league and you better make every down count. Also, you cannot play a 30 game and count on your "adjustments" at halftime. Like I've said before..... Philbin is not an NFL head coach.

 

[mwestberry]

Only by ignorant people, and to be honest, I don't give a **** about ignorant people. I'd rather be smart than reckless. And leadership is knowing when to do that, even if its the unpopular decision.

I guess then Philbin is a real leader in your mind because he "knew when to do that"....didnt quite work out but ...what a gutsy call

 

[Bumpus]

and get into the locker room, regroup and make some adjustments
- our line was getting beat badly at that point
- Its not popular decision but it was the right one and they moved the ball at start the second half.

- All you arm chair QBs would be complaining either way if things went wrong- if Tannehill is sacked, throws a pick or is stripped of the ball, or its 3 quick incomplete passes and forced to punt, bills get the ball back an score you guys would be complaining about that coaching strategy
- Also I don't believe Lazor's read option on 4th and short was a bad call. QB had some open field,bills SS just made a great play- again if that worked people would be talkin about the great call on 4th down

Disagree with this entire post.

1st - Quitters mentality.
2nd - It seems like this team is allergic to the QB sneak. (4th & 1, and we're in the shotgun?!?)

 

[NCFINFAN13]

Poor leaders make poor decisions when circumstances call for bold actions.

Above and beyond any play, including the kick-off return, telling your team you have no confidence in them when they are needed to perform in a crucial series is tantamount to breaking their backs.

This was a public humiliation of the highest order for this team and there will be repercussions for this lack of leadership down the road. Even if Phailbin had no confidence in Tannehill, this was not the proper course of action. This was a surrender, plain and simple.

Phailbin had several options at his disposal to attempt to a.) score points before the half and b.) carry momentum into the second half. Instead he laid down like a beaten dog.

Some of you, God Bless you, are ok with this and even rationalize the decision .... I respect your opinions ... but this is not the mentality of a Championship Head Coach.

This is the mentality of a guy who is in over his head. A quitter. A loser. A guy coaching not to lose rather than a guy coaching to win.

My opinion. My 2 cents.

 

[DZimmer000]

Poor leaders make poor decisions when circumstances call for bold actions.

Above and beyond any play, including the kick-off return, telling your team you have no confidence in them when they are needed to perform in a crucial series is tantamount to breaking their backs.

This was a public humiliation of the highest order for this team and there will be repercussions for this lack of leadership down the road. Even if Phailbin had no confidence in Tannehill, this was not the proper course of action. This was a surrender, plain and simple.

Phailbin had several options at his disposal to attempt to a.) score points before the half and b.) carry momentum into the second half. Instead he laid down like a beaten dog.

Some of you, God Bless you, are ok with this and even rationalize the decision .... I respect your opinions ... but this is not the mentality of a Championship Head Coach.

This is the mentality of a guy who is in over his head. A quitter. A loser. A guy coaching not to lose rather than a guy coaching to win.

My opinion. My 2 cents.

Best post in this thread. I could not have said it better.

 

[nerfball]

I just don't get why you need to go to the locker room to talk to the offense and make adjustments. You can't do some of that on the sideline? That's the name of the game folks, adjustments on the fly. You can't have a 20 minute break every time you need to change something.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

I'll stop short of saying that this decision means Philbin is a terrible coach or that it makes him a coward.

But... I don't think a team should ever surrender possessions while down 9 points. I especially think that when the Dolphins picked up a couple of first downs they should have taken their timeouts and at least tried SOMETHING. Also it's not like they went into halftime and made huge schematic adjustments

 

[Fins1971]

I'll stop short of saying that this decision means Philbin is a terrible coach or that it makes him a coward.

But... I don't think a team should ever surrender possessions while down 9 points. I especially think that when the Dolphins picked up a couple of first downs they should have taken their timeouts and at least tried SOMETHING. Also it's not like they went into halftime and made huge schematic adjustments

You don't need a halftime to regroup for a Hail Mary. You have a timeout and that is enough to plan a Hail Mary play from the 41. Ridiculous.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

You don't need a halftime to regroup for a Hail Mary. You have a timeout and that is enough to plan a Hail Mary play from the 41. Ridiculous.

Well, I wouldn't have tried a Hail Mary with that garbage pass blocking, but I think we definitely could have worked the middle of the field with those 3 timeouts and got into FG range.

 

[roy_miami]

After looking at the plays in the Packers loss to the Giants in 2011 playoffs I think Philbin didn't want to make the same mistake he did in that game.
AT his own 20 with 1:51 to go in half he let Rodgers throw it 5 times and they were forced to punt. Giants got the ball back and scored on last play of half and went on to win game

So his last playoff appearance he was burned by going for points at the end of half. So I understand running it at the 12. I even understand running it after we picked up a 1st down.
But once your gained 29 yards to 41 (best drive of 1st half) you don't give up with 8 seconds left and 3 timeouts

I don't agree with this assessment. This was a one off decision based on the fact that our offense was averaging 10 yards a drive. I think he viewed it as an EV neutral situation at best and rather than take a coinflip for points he wanted to send a message to Tannehill and Lazor. It was just an extraordinary situation and he made an extraordinary decision. He is typically aggressive in these situations even calling his own timeouts when the other team has the ball, and quite often takes flack from the fans for being too aggressive in these situations. Remember this from last years New England game in which he was using his timeouts to leave ourselves some time to score before the half:

lol at miami calling a TO

do they really think they'll get the ball back and score before the half ends

oh, Joe. Sometimes you just tickle me pink

Stupid Philbin calling time outs. What will happen is instead of being down 10-0 at half, we'll be down 17-0 after a pick six or sack fumble.

New England was gashing us. Need the D to collect themselves. Hence the time out.

why are they calling timeouts

Great coaching philbin. Give NE those timeouts

Typically it is correct to try to score there and typically Joe Philbin is very aggressive in this situation. Having 25 yards of offense in a half is not typical however, its downright bizarre...

And its funny a lot of the same people that were killing him for being too aggressive there are calling him a weakling now. Make up your ****ing mind, donkeys!!

 

[whizafriz]

As much sense as it makes to try and keep the game from being a 2 possession difference, in the end, it's really just a play-not-to-lose mentality, and I think that hurts the team more than simply being down by less or more points.

 

[roy_miami]

As much sense as it makes to try and keep the game from being a 2 possession difference, in the end, it's really just a play-not-to-lose mentality, and I think that hurts the team more than simply being down by less or more points.

Thats his call. It didn't seem to have any effect in the second half on Sunday, we'll see if it has an effect going forward. If we get murdered by KC at home, who is playing pretty ****ty and seems to be a bad team right now you might be right. If we murder them then maybe that means Philbin was right and Tannehill and the rest of the offense received the message loud and clear.

 

[Fins1971]

Philbin is currently the 3rd most likely to be fired 1st according to Vegas odds.

From top bet

Dennis Allen (raiders) +150
Jason Garrett ( cowboys) +250
Joe Philbin (dolphins) +750

 

[TheJetsBlow]

Poor leaders make poor decisions when circumstances call for bold actions.

Above and beyond any play, including the kick-off return, telling your team you have no confidence in them when they are needed to perform in a crucial series is tantamount to breaking their backs.

This was a public humiliation of the highest order for this team and there will be repercussions for this lack of leadership down the road. Even if Phailbin had no confidence in Tannehill, this was not the proper course of action. This was a surrender, plain and simple.

Phailbin had several options at his disposal to attempt to a.) score points before the half and b.) carry momentum into the second half. Instead he laid down like a beaten dog.

Some of you, God Bless you, are ok with this and even rationalize the decision .... I respect your opinions ... but this is not the mentality of a Championship Head Coach.

This is the mentality of a guy who is in over his head. A quitter. A loser. A guy coaching not to lose rather than a guy coaching to win.

My opinion. My 2 cents.

This post couldn't be more spot on. Well said NC.

 

[TheMageGandalf]

Buffalo was defending the big play pass.

If they were playing in a prevent type defense then you throw some high percentage underneath passes and hope that your skill players can get some YAC. If they can't, then it's as good as a run.

It's been done a million times before to get into FG range and its the biggest issue with the prevent defense (along with trying to catch them with a run or two).

I'd totally understand what he did if he was sitting there with only :45 left. Not over 2 minutes.