Phins talking point: Moore not going anywhere soon, Egnew not making an impact yet

[Pachyderm_Wave]

why you gonna play that kid in a 3 point stance anyways...makes little sense

Because he's a tight end. If you only line him up in the slot or at the X running X-iso he's not a tight end... that's a wide receiver.

You can't be a seam threat if you're not playing in-line.

 

[hoops]

Because he's a tight end. If you only line him up in the slot or at the X running X-iso he's not a tight end... that's a wide receiver.

You can't be a seam threat if you're not playing in-line.

i get that but you can flex him out..i guess my point is you don't want that guy blocking anyone...so why not play to his strengths by flexing him out as much as you can....lbs are gonna ride him all the way down the field if he's in line...that kids game is AWFULLY finesse...use him like the pack uses finley...he's in line some but he does a lot of his damage flexed out...

or try and go poor mans aaron hernandez...

 

[flynryan15]

Because he's a tight end. If you only line him up in the slot or at the X running X-iso he's not a tight end... that's a wide receiver.

You can't be a seam threat if you're not playing in-line.

Why you dodging the second question?

 

[hoops]

there's another side to this also...why you burning a 3rd round pick on a te who never played in a 3 point stance in college pretty much with the idea that you are gonna have to spend a year or two just teaching the kid how to play in line and you have the massive unknown about whether or not the kid can even get off the los from in line???

it's called overdrafting on measurables and workout #'s...and production in a college system that doesn't translate...or at least you don't plan on implementing him a lot of the same way in...

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

Why you dodging the second question?

There wasn't a second question when I quoted it, he must have edited his post and put it in afterwards.

I don't know about any of their developments because I haven't seen 'em play or practice.

I suppose Tannehill and Lamar Miller are headed to the Hall of Fame while Egnew is headed towards selling insurance based on a week of camp.

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

i get that but you can flex him out..i guess my point is you don't want that guy blocking anyone...so why not play to his strengths by flexing him out as much as you can....lbs are gonna ride him all the way down the field if he's in line...that kids game is AWFULLY finesse...use him like the pack uses finley...he's in line some but he does a lot of his damage flexed out...

or try and go poor mans aaron hernandez...

The TE is a functional piece of the protections, they go hand in hand. You can't contribute as a pass catcher from a 3-point stance without first becoming an integral part of the protections. Guys that don't understand leverage because they've never done it require a steeper learning curve.

You try to make a kid as complete of a player as you can make him and it starts in training camp. They already know he can line up as a receiver, run option routes and catch bubble screens in his sleep. He's got 2 full seasons worth of game film doing it at Missouri... that's why they drafted him.

They'll flex him out, but you have to develope him as a blocker to become part of your protections or he's no good to you.

 

[hoops]

The TE is a functional piece of the protections, they go hand in hand. You can't contribute as a pass catcher from a 3-point stance without first becoming an integral part of the protections. Guys that don't understand leverage because they've never done it require a steeper learning curve.

You try to make a kid as complete of a player as you can make him and it starts in training camp. They already know he can line up as a receiver, run option routes and catch bubble screens in his sleep. He's got 2 full seasons worth of game film doing it at Missouri... that's why they drafted him.

They'll flex him out, but you have to develope him as a blocker to become part of your protections or he's no good to you.

how much has new england used aaron hernandez in line slimm??? how much time have they spent developing him as a blocker???

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

being still in the league in 3 damn years doesn't mean a thing...patrick turners been in the league 3 years...has that been anything but a damn bust??? this kid needs to be a difference maker...

but keep the excuses coming fellas...i'm sure there's some more ones you can come up with... ghost in shorts and a helmet and ghost in full pads despite a golden opportunity...

It's good you bring up Patrick Turner because he's a great example of the point I'm trying to make. As you're well aware, he was a kid that neither you or I were fond of at all as a prospect.

But if you'll remember, there's dozens of threads that can still be dug up where he was the talk of training camp as a rookie. It's irrelevant.

 

[hoops]

It's good you bring up Patrick Turner because he's a great example of the point I'm trying to make. As you're well aware, he was a kid that neither you or I were fond of at all as a prospect.

But if you'll remember, there's dozens of threads that can still be dug up where he was the talk of training camp as a rookie. It's irrelevant.

no turner was the talk of otas and minicamps...when the pads came on kid went ghost...

 

[flynryan15]

There wasn't a second question when I quoted it, he must have edited his post and put it in afterwards.

I don't know about any of their developments because I haven't seen 'em play or practice.

I suppose Tannehill and Lamar Miller are headed to the Hall of Fame while Egnew is headed towards selling insurance based on a week of camp.

Sounds finheaven accurate to me.

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

no turner was the talk of otas and minicamps...when the pads came on kid went ghost...

Same difference. Him and the London kid who they signed off the Giants practice squad and made the team through his work on special teams.

 

[hoops]

Same difference. Him and the London kid who they signed off the Giants practice squad and made the team through his work on special teams.

and neither of em could separate to save their lives...a lot like egnew in that regard

 

[flynryan15]

Roflmao I still remember the Brandon London high light reel someone posted on here that had his legend as the next elite wr.

 

[enigmatics]

Sounds finheaven accurate to me.

 

[fishbanger]

Moore will be traded at some point at the end of camp or early in the season as mentioned. Gerrard is outplaying him and Tannehill is also and we have to develop Tannehill and get him ready to start. That means Moore has to go.