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If Tua is available at 18 do we take him? To fall that far must mean bad health news.
If Herbert available does that mean bad reports from scouts?
Is it too high for Love, Eason, Hurts, Fromm?
I have the big ten network and have seen Michigan’s QB and not impressed. Nor MSU QB.
IF IF this were to happen I am ok with another lineman, DL or OL, or a QB if staff likes someone.
 
traptses said:
No you take Tua at 5. If needed, he can sit a year behind Fitzpatrick. Hopefully he works out, he possibly won’t. But we can’t afford to not take a chance
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While I'm not a fan of Tua in this draft, it is due to his injury.

I agree that with 3 first round draft picks we can afford to take a chance with one of them. By taking a chance, I mean a gut based kind of choice as opposed to a BPA kind of choice.
 
Jssanto said:
If Tua is available at 18 do we take him? To fall that far must mean bad health news.
If Herbert available does that mean bad reports from scouts?
Is it too high for Love, Eason, Hurts, Fromm?
I have the big ten network and have seen Michigan’s QB and not impressed. Nor MSU QB.
IF IF this were to happen I am ok with another lineman, DL or OL, or a QB if staff likes someone.
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Valid question. Some who would take a paraplegic Tua will disagree, and, actually, I think he'll be gone by pick 10, depending on medical. That said, if medical reports are that bad, no, I'd pass
 
If Tua falls to 18 it's cause he suffered a Jaylon Smith type nerve damage in his leg.

I think some under estimate the annual GM hype trying to find their next franchise QB. Players like Fromm, Eason, Love etc will go higher than expected due to how hard it is to find a competent QB, let alone an elite one.
 
Jssanto said:
If Tua is available at 18 do we take him? To fall that far must mean bad health news.
If Herbert available does that mean bad reports from scouts?
Is it too high for Love, Eason, Hurts, Fromm?
I have the big ten network and have seen Michigan’s QB and not impressed. Nor MSU QB.
IF IF this were to happen I am ok with another lineman, DL or OL, or a QB if staff likes someone.
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So in this scenario, who did we take at #5?
If he's still available at #18 then somethings way wrong with him. But sure, at #18 if he's available and for some unknown reason we didn't;t take him at #5, sure, I'd take him. I don't think some of the other posters are very good at giving themselves to hypothetical scenarios like this. They simply flame you that we'd of course have taken Tua at #5. That's not the point of this thread. I get it.
 
Fin-Loco said:
So in this scenario, who did we take at #5?
If he's still available at #18 then somethings way wrong with him. But sure, at #18 if he's available and for some unknown reason we didn't;t take him at #5, sure, I'd take him. I don't think some of the other posters are very good at giving themselves to hypothetical scenarios like this. They simply flame you that we'd of course have taken Tua at #5. That's not the point of this thread. I get it.
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Tua won't be there at 18, but if we take a qb at 18, then at 5 you hope to get Jeudy or Okudah.
 
You simply need to ask yourself which of the teams picking before 18 would've picked a healthy Tua. The fact he's still there for you to pick is the aggregated opinion of all those teams and how they view the risk associated with him.

Ideally the Fins want the least amount of risk possible while still maintaining a price that is not astronomical. If there were no risk, Tua might simply not be available to the Fins at any price. If he makes it to 18, he might just be to much of a coinflip to even draft...
 
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NBP81 said:
You simply need to ask yourself which of the teams picking before 18 would've picked a healthy Tua. The fact he's still there for you to pick is the aggregated opinion of all those teams and how they view the risk associated with him.

Ideally the Fins what the least amount of risk possible while still maintaining a price that is not astronomical. If there were no risk, Tua might simply not be available to the Fins at any price. If he makes it to 18, he might just be to much of a coinflip to even draft...
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A well thought out post in the face of a lot of hyperbole that surrounds Tua.
 
If Tua were to drop to 18 due to health concerns I would still take the chance and draft him there. The way I see it is if the team was willing to give up the 6th pick and the 18 pick to move up to get a healthy Tua than just giving up the 18th pick is trading something you were planning on not having anyway so why not take the chance.
 
Burrow, Tua and Herbert are going top 10 this year. There are so many teams that either need a QB or could look to replace an aged veteran picking early. I wouldn’t be surprised if a team trades up with the Giants, especially the Chargers, if they felt Miami might draft the guy they want. As other people have said, if Tua is on the board at 18 there are major red flags with his medicals. If he doesn’t get a full pass from the team’s medical staff he is a hard pass for me.
 
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