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QB controversy deja vu

ckparrothead said:
The writing is on the wall. The future quarterback of the Miami Dolphins is not on the roster.
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This may very well be true. However, I would very much like to see Feeley perform well this year. (duh)

WARNING: LOOOONG POST... sorry. :o

And I, for one, think he can... perform well. Is he the next incarnation of Manning? Oh, c'mon people! :goof:

But could he put up good enough numbers (STATS, for those of you that don't know what I'm talk'n about) to warrant some TRADE VALUE after we've picked up a "franchise QB" in next year's draft? Hey! Who knows! But it would be nice, wouldn't it? For example, wouldn't it be great to be in the enviable position San Diego is in now? OK! So, why is it so hard for some people (NOT directed towards you, CK) to get off Feeley's @$$? Sheesh! Didn't we already have enough of that with Wanny-on-Fiedler? (Sounds like some funky sandwich you'd order in some trendy SF deli.)

Seriously, I'm not wishing PRO BOWL for Feeley (despite my appearance, I'm not stupid). But I am wanting, and BELIEVING, that he CAN put up FAR BETTER numbers and performances than last year. And THAT should be a no-brainer for everyone - you could put my 90 year old grandmother in at QB this year and you'll see improved #'s.

Look, bottom line, Feeley WILL improve. The ONLY question is how much... HOW MUCH... that is the only debate we should be having. And the one thing NONE of us can possibly know right now (and, really, not until about Week 5 or 6) is how much will the elevated play AROUND HIM take HIS game up a notch or two... or three.

Finally, no one but Feeley knows or controls how much he is willing to give of himself to CHANGE, to improve. I think we've all seen players that CLEARLY had a lightbulb finally go off and suddenly their NFL careers took root for real. THAT could happen. And no matter what people have seen (good or bad) from last year or with the Eagles or in college or in their dreams... no one knows the depth of this guy's own personal resolve to find a breakthrough in his game. We don't. We just don't. Hell, HE don't know! Not until he pushes himself past that point. (That's why it's called a BREAK-throuuuugh.)

Now, anybody want to argue whether Feeley's interviews and BEHAVIOR on and off the field (leadership) suggest that he might have such an epiphany? Now THAT'S worth debating. And I'll throw my hat in on that one.

I think the clay (so to speak), the potential, is definitely there for some good coaches to mold it into something good... maybe even special (within two or three years). Did we have the coaches for that last year? :sleep:

Ok, then. So whhhhhhhhhhy - again - are so many people on Feeley's @$$?

Ok, enough. I'm bugg'n. :eek:

PEACE!
 
my honest opinion is saban doesnt know who he is going to start at QB right now. I think if Feeley doesn't perform well during preseason/mini camp he will not start AJ Feeley though. Im leaning on gus frerotte taking the snaps, but if feeley wins the job i believe he should be the starter. In other words, i trust sabans judgement i do not think hes biased
 
Goin` Deep said:
Don`t worry...Frerotte will be the starting QB.
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This would be a disappointment, IMO.

There is NO QUESTION in my mind that Frerotte will have some playing time. He may even start a few games due to injury (to Feeley). In today's NFL, I simply do not see it as LIKELY that any QB make it through the entire season. Yes, it happens. But not without a super good line... which we don't have regardless of how much they improve this year.

So, with that said, I think we see Frerotte under center... at some point.

I just think that come Sunday, September 11, 2005... Feeley starts.
 
ckparrothead said:
Because you never know when something great could happen, you just have to put yourself in the position to where it could happen. Did Baltimore fans think it was meaningless to have Trent Dilfer start at QB for them the year they won the Super Bowl?

Anyway, it is in the best interest of all involved to get the offense clicking on all cylinders. Players that are here and will continue to be here no matter who is under center need to know what it feels like to get the offense clicking on all cylinders. They need to know success in order to try and consistently achieve it.
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Trent Dilfer was still a relatively young quarterback with years ahead of him. Gus is on the last legs of his career and does not look like he could be a potential Rich Gannon
 
I think the battle will come down to who performs better in the camp before the season. I think that Feeley and Gus both have good and bad attributes. That said, given the fact that Feeley has never been one to overly impress in camp (sorry guys, but it is true, regardless of how he did in the regular season), and Linehan's close relationship with him, I think Gus will at least open the year at QB.

It's anyone's guess what will happen after that though.
 
Superself said:
I like Nick Saban and all and am willing to see things unfold as they must.

But I have to comment on my gut wrinching feeling that I get when I think that Feeley has to go through another grind of trying to beat out another QB (Gus)....that has an inside edge/advantage over him.

Just like Fiedler before him, there is the huge posibility that Gus may win this competition. Are we as fans prepared for that? How comfortable should we feel that Gus is going to be able to completely handle the responsibilities here and hold up for the rest of the year?

Then, what about the fallout from AJ losing his spot and playing second fiddle ::gulp:: (AGAIN)?
Do we have a QB curse on our hands here?
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I just don't understand posts like this. No player at ANY position should be handed a job. This isn't a controversy. This is an open competition between two QBs. One will be the starter, the other the back up. There is no controversy about it. The better QB will and should get the job. That's the way it's supposed to be.
 
SCall13 said:
I just don't understand posts like this. No player at ANY position should be handed a job. This isn't a controversy. This is an open competition between two QBs. One will be the starter, the other the back. There is no controversy about it. The better QB will and should get the job. That's the way it's supposed to be.
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I agree, he did not win the job yet, no matter the circumstances last year. The good news, I think, is that the best guy for the franchise will play. This year Feeley will have a legitimate chance of winning the starting job here, a chance I do not believe he really had last training camp. I hope Frerrotte is absolutly fabulous, and Feeley beats him out anyway, fair and square.
 
SCall13 said:
I just don't understand posts like this. No player at ANY position should be handed a job. This isn't a controversy. This is an open competition between two QBs. One will be the starter, the other the back up. There is no controversy about it. The better QB will and should get the job. That's the way it's supposed to be.
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AMEN! I am so sick of people saying "Won't it hurt AJ that he has to compete?" Who gives a flying ____? Are you trying to say you don't want the BETTER QB to start because it might not be AJ. I must not see what everyone's mancrush on AJ is because I just want the best QB to come in and play and WIN.

This is a team that was RIDDLED with injuries and bad coaching. The guys are back, the coaching is better, why not try to make a run this year?
 
Noodle Arm said:
I'm sick and tired of QB controversies. It's been like this for 5 years now. I know Jay was Wanny's guy, but every offseason we brought in someone to compete... Huard originally, Lucas, Griese, Feeley...uhgg enough is enough. I can't wait for the day when we can say "*Insert Name Here* will be our starting QB for years to come."
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Well honestly, Huard and Lucas were never here to compete legitimately. Huard did at least as well as Fiedler in preseason and had at least some experience with the team yet Fiedler was handed the starting spot. Lucas was told from the beginning that he absolutely would not be competing for the starting spot. Griese was brought in very late, so he wasnt competing to be the starter at the beginning of the season. I think even if he had played better he still wouldnt have been given a fair chance. That leaves Feeley. Fiedler had a big bonus coming in 2005 and most reports coming out of training camp had Feeley and Fiedler about even. Also, the team owner and GM were obviously sick of Jay and fully supported Feeley. You would think that if their performance was about even, then the one more likely to be around long term would be made the starter. Nope....Dave still gave the spot to Fiedler. There were lots of reports that Dave and AJ didnt get along from the start, so short of Fiedler playing so poorly that he gave Dave no choice (which is what happened) I think Dave would have left Jay in as long as he was head coach.
So ....was anyone truly brought in to compete for the starting QB job in the past 5 years?
 
yankeehillbilly said:
Well honestly, Huard and Lucas were never here to compete legitimately. Huard did at least as well as Fiedler in preseason and had at least some experience with the team yet Fiedler was handed the starting spot. Lucas was told from the beginning that he absolutely would not be competing for the starting spot. Griese was brought in very late, so he wasnt competing to be the starter at the beginning of the season. I think even if he had played better he still wouldnt have been given a fair chance. That leaves Feeley. Fiedler had a big bonus coming in 2005 and most reports coming out of training camp had Feeley and Fiedler about even. Also, the team owner and GM were obviously sick of Jay and fully supported Feeley. You would think that if their performance was about even, then the one more likely to be around long term would be made the starter. Nope....Dave still gave the spot to Fiedler. There were lots of reports that Dave and AJ didnt get along from the start, so short of Fiedler playing so poorly that he gave Dave no choice (which is what happened) I think Dave would have left Jay in as long as he was head coach.
So ....was anyone truly brought in to compete for the starting QB job in the past 5 years?
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One thing I have to disagree with is the Huard Fiedler thing. I see the coaches point on that. With Huard the offense was total crap. Zero touchdowns, couldn't move. With Fiedler the offense scored a touchdown and actually moved down the field some.
 
Superself said:
I like Nick Saban and all and am willing to see things unfold as they must.

But I have to comment on my gut wrinching feeling that I get when I think that Feeley has to go through another grind of trying to beat out another QB (Gus)....that has an inside edge/advantage over him.

Just like Fiedler before him, there is the huge posibility that Gus may win this competition. Are we as fans prepared for that? How comfortable should we feel that Gus is going to be able to completely handle the responsibilities here and hold up for the rest of the year?

Then, what about the fallout from AJ losing his spot and playing second fiddle ::gulp:: (AGAIN)?
Do we have a QB curse on our hands here?
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I'm worried a bit too. The only thing I can see is that if Feeley can get even close to as reliable as Gus, he gets the starting job. But no matter what, he has to look over his shoulder. The other possibility is that if Feeley can't improve to where the coaches think he should, they start Gus and bail on Feeley and get anotherr young gut next year, to take over in 07 or 08 maybe. I think there are many possibilities and the coaches will just wait and see. I repeat though, that if they think Feeley can become the guy (improves to close to Gus by late August), they'll let him start. I just hope he does improve enough.
 
dolphan north said:
I repeat though, that if they think Feeley can become the guy (improves to close to Gus by late August), they'll let him start. I just hope he does improve enough.
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I disagree. nick is gonna give the job to the best player, he's isn't going to give the job to a player that is not quite as good as the other player but happens to be 5 years younger than him. saban wants to win now, so that won't fly.
 
inFINSible said:
I don't believe that Gus is capable getting the offense to fire on all cylinders but, I see your point.
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why not? he did in Minnesota in this same offense with fewer weapons. but your golden boy will? please......

you apparently are so gung ho AJ that you dont want anybody but him to be the starter, and if somebody else does win....its something negative like "I dont believe that Gus is capable"
 
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