Question for the sky is falling crowd........

[psfign]

The point is...the off-season is the time to make major changes....not after week two.

agreed. I'm not confident we'll do anything this year. But I dont want to see anything blown up...still want them to have the chance to dig themselves out.

 

[jvw]

Should the Patriots fans have given up on the season after getting embarrassed in week one?

Should they have given up on Brady with thoughts that he is now washed up?

If some of them did......how do you suppose their perspective might have changed after week 2?

Point being here...this is a 16 week journey, which usually is more about surviving the first half of the season as you hopefully gel as a team....stay healthy....and culminates in a late season run into the playoffs.

In Miami's case....this first half of the season involves getting used to a new offensive system....with 5 New O-linemen...and now enduring some bad injuries and suspensions.

There will be plenty of time after the 16 games to analyze and make future decisions on Philbin, Tannehill....etc etc etc
With a lot more information than we have over 2 games....I mean, many Super bowl Champion teams laid an egg at some point in their season.

It's perfectly proper to criticize every part of this team on any given Sunday for a performance....but some of the over-the-top...quitters threads after this game is just ridiculous.

Let's stop with the seasons over threads....the bye bye Philbin and Tannehill threads and see how it plays out.

Lots of time after the season to replace them if things don't improve.

Please don't compare our situation with a team that has won the division 12 out of last 13 yrs....in that time gone to 5 super bowls and won 3 and who knows how many championship games but it feels like every yr their in it and they have Brady who wins no matter what type of talent is around him.....I am not bailing on our season but if we had Brady I wouldn't be worried at all......

 

[BlueFin]

If we end up with another 8-8 season, then yes, those things are definitely on the table.

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I disagree, last year is completely relevant. It is the measuring stick for 2014. It is how we gauge improvement.

Your right about that...I meant being a different scheme with more than half the starting lineup changed....we need more than a 2 game sample to throw in the towel...that's all.

There are some who link 10 years ago to today....I say you can't condemn this team on that basis.

 

[randomname]

This....exactly the point of the thread.

Whatever this team is and will be is yet to be fully determined.......what we were 10 years ago or even last year is irrelevent right now.

Face it, the Dolphins have been the exact same team for the past decade, and that carried right over into the 2 games this season.

A team that thrives on HEARTBREAK and AGONY. Of course they won the first game, if only so that they could get our hopes up before dashing them like brittle eggs cast off a tall building onto the hard, rocky gravel below. The only purpose of the Miami Dolphins is to bring the greatest possible misery, with just the right amount of unfulfilled hope sprinkled in, to all of the poor masochistic bastards that waste their lives away rooting for them. I don't know what I did in my previous life to deserve this team, but it must have been awful.

 

[BlueFin]

Okay...the Patriots may have been a bad example....but..I know several of them personally and I heard the same quitter type stuff coming from them after week one...that was my point.

 

[Dolphins7273]

Okay...the Patriots may have been a bad example....but..I know several of them personally and I heard the same quitter type stuff coming from them after week one...that was my point.

Your point was pointless. Who cares about how those chowder breaths feel after a loss? Our team hasn't done **** since before most of us were born, and nothing feels like it's changing.

 

[psfign]

Your point was pointless. Who cares about how those chowder breaths feel after a loss? Our team hasn't done **** since before most of us were born, and nothing feels like it's changing.

he said it was a bad example....lay off.

 

[where's th'fish]

I don't get why people bring up when successful teams lose and compare it to the Dolphins. Miami hasn't done anything in 30 years. They get no benefit of the doubt. New England, Seattle, San Francisco, teams like these have gotten to places Miami hasn't in 20+ years. To be fans of those teams is completely different than us here.

And I really don't get why people bring up the last 30 years and all sort of past failures when judging what is happening now. This is a new year. New GM, new system, many new players. Others young and still developing. Nothing is written. Shouldn't we watch more than two games before going mental, especially when one of those games was a huge win???

Past failures are nothing more than a ghost that haunts some people's nightmares, they have no power over the present. Do you really believe because Fiedler didn't have enough talent or the defense couldn't help the Marino teams that this year's team is doomed after a loss to Buffalo? Does Wannested have Philbin's ear? Seriously, people, just listen to yourselves.

 

[BlueFin]

Your point was pointless. Who cares about how those chowder breaths feel after a loss? Our team hasn't done **** since before most of us were born, and nothing feels like it's changing.

Speak for yourself...I saw the perfect season.

I also have watched this game long enough to know you don't quit after 2 games with a 1-1 start....unless you are truly of a loser mentality.

 

[gofins60]

I have always said that Ross made a huge mistake by hiring Philbin (and keeping Ireland). Philbin hires his pal Sherman, and Ireland drafts Sherman's boy Tannehill. I'm just waiting for a new Head Coach and QB so I can be excited about this team again... at least Hickey appears to be a better judge of talent than Ireland.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Brady and the Patriots have a decade plus of success to fall back on! Our current regime and roster has a track record of falling on their face!

Sure and I've really lost faith in Joe Philbin, but the three units that are killing this team right now (interior OL, LBs, and kick coverage) are getting some players back in the next 2 weeks. You've got built in reasons for optimism right there, dang.

 

[phinasota]

Bro...I have been critical of this team since Shula left...and of Shula's drafting going back to the middle eighties.

After this season is over...if we go .500 again....if Tannehill doesn't show significant improvement over last year...I will be calling for their heads...but not after week 2...not at 1-1 with a big win over the Patriots.

But we don't need a full year to see our insufficiency's. We can see them now. They are the same things as last year so far. Yes it is a different system. But a system does not determine the accuracies / inaccuracies of a qb's throw. Tanne just is not accurate. He was shook in this game.

I think it's time to start trading picks for proven players. We can't hit on the damn draft, let's start actually getting something for our picks before week 6

 

[utahphinsfan]

I don't get why people bring up when successful teams lose and compare it to the Dolphins. Miami hasn't done anything in 30 years. They get no benefit of the doubt. New England, Seattle, San Francisco, teams like these have gotten to places Miami hasn't in 20+ years. To be fans of those teams is completely different than us here.

Its an ADD riddled, instant gratification needing culture in 21st century America. So, if the phins have allegedly been irrelevant for decades then shouldn't New England, Baltimore, Denver, Seattle, potsburgh, & San Francisco be judged more harshly?

Yet, in the Pacific NW, I doubt they are calling for R Wilson & P Carroll to be gutted like the catch of the day @ Pikes Place.

That said, The theme song for this site (especially after phins losses) s/b Metallica's Poor twisted me.

 

[LDaniel7]

The sky isn't falling. The sky fell many years ago, and we still haven't been able to pick it up.

Nice, lol.

Longsuffering Dolphin fans -- suffering through Wanny, Saban, and Sparano under the almighty hand of Ireland -- sky did fall. But the problem is that most fans now Chicken Littling it are the same ones that blindly said, "The Coach/GM knows more than us!" Trust the people that get paid to evaluate talent and coach football!

While some of us were calling so loudly for real talent and real coaching.

Sky did fall then, but the people that called it for what it was from day one are also the people that are not panicking now.

LD

 

[dolphinheel]

Brady and the Patriots have a decade plus of success to fall back on! Our current regime and roster has a track record of falling on their face!

I'm going to nominate this for the post of the year! Nailed it. Winning is a habit and so is losing, and the Dolphins continue to make the same mistakes when it comes to personnel, coaches and the draft, which leads to the same result--good but not quite good enough, or just plain average. As I have noted on this board before, and as a somewhat successful business owner myself, when a team or a business consistently underachieves you have to look at the leader. The leadership of this organization, Ross and Philbin, are not getting it done. You can point to the scandal of last year, how all the strong vocal leaders were purged from the team and the consistently average product they put on the field. Bad decisions always yield bad results, and until these two leaders take personal responsibility and change the culture in the locker room to an expectation of winning we will seee the same 8-8 crap every year. We have good talent, but we are really lacking in the leadership department. That starts from the top.