Randy Mac arrested in Augusta, GA......

[late again]

My mother was abused. If these incidents were happening with my mother, I would be much happier.

Until McMichael actually beats his wife, it is an insult to all battered women to call him a wifebeater.

So where does one draw the line? When does an act such as this change from "overly aggressive behavior" to abuse? Some things to think about. Because of your own experiences at home as a child you've been somewhat numbed to domestice violence. I'm not saying that it doesn't bother you; however I'm suggesting that you have scars from the violence you witnessed that cause you to be less appalled than some people. But domestic abuse is still domestic abuse. If you hit your spouse (male or female) you have abused him/her. Just one time. It's still abuse. While there are varying degrees of severity of abuse, there are no varying degrees of right and wrong. It's just as wrong to hit your spouse once as it is to hit her/him 50 times. Do you see what I mean or no?

 

[adamprez2003]

If McMichael truly tried to hit his wife with bad intentions she would be on life support right now. From the story it sounds like they had some argument that got heated to the point where McMichael was trying to get away from her and she wouldn't let him. If all she had was a couple of drops of blood on her shirt it most likely was inadvertent as she claimed. This seems to me like a marraige spat that shouldn't really be news except for the fact that McMichael is a professional athelete

 

[Fudge 101]

So where does one draw the line? When does an act such as this change from "overly aggressive behavior" to abuse? Some things to think about. Because of your own experiences at home as a child you've been somewhat numbed to domestice violence. I'm not saying that it doesn't bother you; however I'm suggesting that you have scars from the violence you witnessed that cause you to be less appalled than some people. But domestic abuse is still domestic abuse. If you hit your spouse (male or female) you have abused him/her. Just one time. It's still abuse. While there are varying degrees of severity of abuse, there are no varying degrees of right and wrong. It's just as wrong to hit your spouse once as it is to hit her/him 50 times. Do you see what I mean or no?

i understand what your saying, but its not black and white. so in the first case she hit him numerous times until finally he hit her to move her from the doorway. in my eyes, BOTH were wrong in that case. This case we are still not sure of the truth so i wont speak of it quite yet. but if they were both wrong in this one why everyone only downing randy? just not sure because if their both wrong on the first offense, then they MAY and i cant stress that enough MAY both be wrong on the second. AGAIN... LETS wait to see the final say and truth to what exactly has happened...

 

[BlitPhinFan]

So where does one draw the line? When does an act such as this change from "overly aggressive behavior" to abuse? Some things to think about. Because of your own experiences at home as a child you've been somewhat numbed to domestice violence. I'm not saying that it doesn't bother you; however I'm suggesting that you have scars from the violence you witnessed that cause you to be less appalled than some people. But domestic abuse is still domestic abuse. If you hit your spouse (male or female) you have abused him/her. Just one time. It's still abuse. While there are varying degrees of severity of abuse, there are no varying degrees of right and wrong. It's just as wrong to hit your spouse once as it is to hit her/him 50 times. Do you see what I mean or no?

If that was the case, then I would have never gotten back the woman that I love. I would have left ages ago and never had these heartaches. You can't put a price or situation on love. Love is all about finding that someone special to you and working through it all together.

It's not about what you precieved to be best for youm but what is best for you and the woman and children that you love.

Everyone wants thier lives to be a fairytale, but the fact of the matter is... 90/100 it will not be and you have to be happy with that our you will ge divorced.

 

[canesfins13]

If that was the case, then I would have never gotten back the woman that I love. I would have left ages ago and never had these heartaches. You can't put a price or situation on love. Love is all about finding that someone special to you and working through it all together.

It's not about what you precieved to be best for youm but what is best for you and the woman and children that you love.

Everyone wants thier lives to be a fairytale, but the fact of the matter is... 90/100 it will not be and you have to be happy with that our you will ge divorced.

But the real question, would you have been justified in hitting your wife or getting aggressive with her?

 

[BlitPhinFan]

I have disrupted this thread enoug tonight. I will let all the nay sayers have thier day and all the opened minded have thier way as well.

I am off to bed, but before I go... Best of lives to all of you! :)


:goodnight

 

[canesfins13]

I have disrupted this thread enoug tonight. I will let all the nay sayers have thier day and all the opened minded have thier way as well.

I am off to bed, but before I go... Best of lives to all of you! :)


:goodnight

I didn't think you would answer that question.

 

[Fudge 101]

I have disrupted this thread enoug tonight. I will let all the nay sayers have thier day and all the opened minded have thier way as well.

I am off to bed, but before I go... Best of lives to all of you! :)


:goodnight

thanks for the insight and for helping the open minded...as said before, i truly have respect for what you have been through and overcomed...

 

[Justasportsfan]

This is a chance for Saban to extend Randy's contract.

Saban: "Randy, sign this extension and buy your wife a 4 million diamond ring. It worked for Kobe, it'll work for you"

 

[BlitPhinFan]

But the real question, would you have been justified in hitting your wife or getting aggressive with her?

Okaym the real question... no of course not, but it happened. Am I proud of it no, am I a wife beater, not in my eyes. I was a flash situation that I reacted to to, in my eyes, survive.

I don't take pride in it, but I also don't feel asamed. I was dealing with an individual that could not be dealt, rationaly, with plain an simple.

I was debilitated and I came back with the force I felt neccesary to end the situation.

At the time, I had no idea what that force actually was. But it did have the outcome I wanted. All the pain and suffering ended at that point. To this day, my wife thanks me for it(even though I loath myself for it). The point is, you can't truely put yourself or you loved one there, unless you have in FACT been there!

 

[canesfins13]

Okaym the real question... no of course not, but it happened. Am I proud of it no, am I a wife beater, not in my eyes. I was a flash situation that I reacted to to, in my eyes, survive.

I don't take pride in it, but I also don't feel asamed. I was dealing with an individual that could not be dealt, rationaly, with plain an simple.

I was debilitated and I came back with the force I felt neccesary to end the situation.

At the time, I had no idea what that force actually was. But it did have the outcome I wanted. All the pain and suffering ended at that point. To this day, my wife thanks me for it(even though I loath myself for it). The point is, you can't truely put yourself or you loved one there, unless you have in FACT been there!

Well you are a stand up guy for admitting it, but I dont think there is any excuse for hitting my wife, just my opinion. good night.

 

[Fudge 101]

Well you are a stand up guy for admitting it, but I dont think there is any excuse for hitting my wife, just my opinion. good night.

of course you and I cant... as blit himself said...

The point is, you can't truely put yourself or you loved one there, unless you have in FACT been there!

 

[BlitPhinFan]

Well you are a stand up guy for admitting it, but I dont think there is any excuse for hitting my wife, just my opinion. good night.

And you have never been in the situation of a bi-polar bearing down on your life. So, to that I agree with you, had that never happened to me, I would be of the same mentality as you.

You either survive to protect your children, or you you die and let the bi-polar woman consume your children... so to speak.

 

[canesfins13]

Sorry, I still don't think it is right.

 

[late again]

i understand what your saying, but its not black and white. so in the first case she hit him numerous times until finally he hit her to move her from the doorway. in my eyes, BOTH were wrong in that case.

And I agree with you 100%. They were both wrong. Just because a woman can possibly do less harm doesn't mean she's any less culpable or less guilty. If anything at all she's maybe less intelligent. For me, and mostly due to what I do for a living, my opinions aren't based on the legal ramifications (which are certainly not balanced nor fair) but have more to do with moral obligations. And I certainly agree that this issue isn't cut and dried; in fact very few domestic violence cases are. Additionally, what we've read in the papers is with almost certainty just a microcosmic glimpse into what goes on at their house behind closed doors.
Also, don't misunderstand me. Even if everything we've read turns out to be true, I do not think McMichael is a "scumbag". He's still a human being. But he has some very serious issues that he needs to confront and take care of now and not later.