Exactly. Great argument. Supported by facts. And with that debate victory you can take the trophy to your Pats home board. :3w:
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And what would you know about facts?
Exactly. Great argument. Supported by facts. And with that debate victory you can take the trophy to your Pats home board. :3w:
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Nah it is mostly sour grapes
And what would you know about facts?
I gave you plenty of facts. Just because you choose to ignore them or trying to dismiss them with "oh, others are just jealous" doesn't make them any less facts.
To be honest I have yet to see from you or any other person defending the Patriots to bring any contradictory arguments except "jealousy". That includes a couple of long articles written by Boston writers countering O'Leary's book. None of the stats were countered. None of the named sources were asked. Nada. Instead attempts to discredit O'Leary are made trying to put him into category 'absurd' and 'conspiracy theorist' and 'how ridiculous'.
So far it worked well. Not enough fans have read that book yet. I convinced a lot of people to read it and everyone of them walked away saying "it all makes sense now'. And those are people who are not wearing tinfoil heads. If you read the book 'Spygate' Deflategate makes sense. People will understand why the NFL is interested in a cover up. Unfortunately for those who love the game and believe in the integrity of fair competition most fans are scared of the truth. They are scared that the sports they love and follow for decades is flawed and not fair. They are scared to wake up and realize that not the best team may win but the one who cheats the best.
Facts are facts. You can twist and attempt to dismiss facts, trying to ridicule and bring forth your 'ra-ra yippi kayjay'. But the facts remain. Unchallenged.
Facts? You post BS that was leaked from un-named sources. Hardly facts. Now why don't you run along and find someone else to play with.
I gave you plenty of facts. Just because you choose to ignore them or trying to dismiss them with "oh, others are just jealous" doesn't make them any less facts.
To be honest I have yet to see from you or any other person defending the Patriots to bring any contradictory arguments except "jealousy". That includes a couple of long articles written by Boston writers countering O'Leary's book. None of the stats were countered. None of the named sources were asked. Nada. Instead attempts to discredit O'Leary are made trying to put him into category 'absurd' and 'conspiracy theorist' and 'how ridiculous'.
So far it worked well. Not enough fans have read that book yet. I convinced a lot of people to read it and everyone of them walked away saying "it all makes sense now'. And those are people who are not wearing tinfoil heads. If you read the book 'Spygate' Deflategate makes sense. People will understand why the NFL is interested in a cover up. Unfortunately for those who love the game and believe in the integrity of fair competition most fans are scared of the truth. They are scared that the sports they love and follow for decades is flawed and not fair. They are scared to wake up and realize that not the best team may win but the one who cheats the best.
Facts are facts. You can twist and attempt to dismiss facts, trying to ridicule and bring forth your 'ra-ra yippi kayjay'. But the facts remain. Unchallenged.
Its obvious you believe anything you read....provided it paints the picture you want. The league hasn't officially released any findings of evidence
that anyone manipulated the balls. The released one statement that there was balls found at half time that were below the min psi. They also released
another to state they were bringing in their independent team of investigators, and one final one stating that video tapes turned over to the league by the patriots showed a person of interest taking the balls to a side room.
Those are the facts released to the public directly from the league. All the rest are claims made by un-named sources and most are contradicting to each other but as I said you hand pick the BS and then call it facts.
It isn't going to matter what the league finds anyway it will always be a conspiracy to you.
A Nut Case Has Spent $30,000 to Write a Book About How Statistics Prove the Patriots Are Still Cheating
http://thebiglead.com/2012/10/21/a-...istics-prove-the-patriots-are-still-cheating/
Do you remember a couple of years ago that game against Green Bay when Matt Flynn lit that D up, and O-lineman Dan Connelly recovered a kick towards the end of the game and kept running there was about 2 or 3 blocks to the back that went uncalled.There was this game last year week 14, the refs gifted the pats a win vs the browns
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9T8UsqQ1hrQ
The story you linked is exactly what I was telling you. Discrediting O'Leary and calling him a nut case before the first paragraph is written is an attempt for the readership to make their minds up before the writer presents his case. It is a common tactic to guide reader.
Of course it is inconsequential that the writer does not really make a case. I don't even think he read the book.
But here is the big difference between you and me. I would make a fuzz about Spygate and Deflategate even if it wouldn't be the Pats. As much as I care for it could be the Dolphins. I still would want them to get punished and I probably would not watch them anymore. I have no room in my life for cheaters and liars. You on the other hand show your allegiance first and foremost. You don't care if your team cheated or not as long as they win.
That really makes me the NFL Man and it makes you a biased Patriots troll. You do know that you are approaching nycjunc level rather quickly. Never know when to back out and to stop.
Now that IS funny. Discrediting O'Leary? All you claim of this article discrediting is just what you yourself are doing. Anyone that doesn't share your opinion is discrediting your hero. O'Leary is a financial strategist who by the way has had his license revoked, yeah sounds like a creditable author. As for the article not making a case I suggest you try reading from:
So let’s break that down, shall we, because it seems like this “theory” is driven by some unsubstantiated belief that the nefarious actions are occurring at home in Foxboro.
If you had written this book of connect the dots theory and it was filled with all this iron clad statistical evidence then why was no major publisher interested in publishing this terrific book? The book was written to market to the sour grapes fan such as yourself so that O'Leary can get his $30,000 self publishing fees back and to try and fill his pockets with cash.....I believe neither of which he's been able to accomplish.
I noticed nothing was mention about the actual facts from the league on the deflated balls
Please. Back to sour grapes. And that's the only defense you and others have. I don't even like grapes.
No. There is nobody who has contradicted O'Leary's book. Taking out sections out of a line of statistical implications is nothing but 'cheating' as well. It is the same like you take a half sentence out of context from an entire paragraph. None of the interviews were debunked. None of the statistics as a whole were debunked. It was cherry picking and discrediting - that's all you have.
And there was plenty of information coming initially from the NFL in Deflategate. But suddenly it stopped. You just disregard facts because they contradict your blind allegiance. Instead you throw 'evidence' at us from 10cent bloggers who blame the refs and unnamed source who claim to have evidence that it was only 1 ball and it was only .000000001 psi under regulation (note: exaggerated).
And then we always have ...... sour grapes.
You really should pack it up.