I've yet to see if Tannehill will take us to the playoffs if Tannehill is not hurt, considering his terrible performance in two win and you're in games when even one average performance out of two would have gotten the job done. At any rate, considering that Matt Moore's offense in the second half of 2011 was the most productive half a season offensively of any Dolphins team I can remember since Marino, it's laughable to think we'd have to write off a season because he was the QB.
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I've yet to see if Tannehill will take us to the playoffs if Tannehill is not hurt, considering his terrible performance in two win and you're in games when even one average performance out of two would have gotten the job done. At any rate, considering that Matt Moore's offense in the second half of 2011 was the most productive half a season offensively of any Dolphins team I can remember since Marino, it's laughable to think we'd have to write off a season because he was the QB.
OK, first of all Chad Pennington disagrees with you. (+ Moore never got us to the playoffs either)
Secondly, we all (ok most) like Moore ... It's just that we'd like him a helluva lot better at 2.5 or 3 million as a backup.
That loot COULD carry over for a year.
Just saying.
Pennington was awesome and I was his biggest fan, but just comparing offensive output from the Chiefs game on in 2011 Moore's offense scored more than Pennington's in 2008. Seeing as we made the playoffs with Pennington in 2008, that actually supports my claim that making the playoffs with Moore is far from impossible.
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Yes. Matt Moore is our Earl Morrall. This talk about only carrying 2 QBs and "saving a spot" or "clearing cap" is RIDICULOUS. Devlin should still be here and lobato should be GONE, he doesn't belong anywhere near a roster. Sign Quinn, OK, see if he develops but don't get caught with him as your only option.
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Its laughable to act like Moore is Earl Morral
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Man I swear, if I see you guys mis-represent his contract numbers another time. :crazy:
DolfanISS
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I admit I like Moore better than Quinn but who doesn't? Quinn blows and anyone who wanted him in 07 is an idiot. But we overpay Moore and like many here pointed out if Tanny goes down we are done so I see the overall point.
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What's that reason? They wanted to spend heavy on other areas of the team, so he took a larger portion of the money in the 2nd year.
We're not just paying him $5million. We are paying him fair value based on the length and terms of his contract. He's arguably the league's top backup and the insurance is worth it given that we already have plenty of cap space to roll over and the likelihood of us going spend crazy for a 3rd straight offseason next summer is low.
2011 is all I need to draw from to know this team has a chance to be in or win games if Tanny got seriously hurt. What the hell else do you guys want from a backup QB? Especially when his contract is done after 2014 and a lot is riding on this season? Moore being on this squad does not handicap them in anyway shape or form and all this talk about cap carryover is generic because there's no plan on where or who the money would be spent on.
It's like I'm talking to a bunch of Scrooge McDucks being misers and counting their vault of gold.
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That's your opinion. You and whoever else share it or more than right to express it.
But that's the divide, because there are those of us after seeing him in 2011 know the team would be in good hands should he be called upon.
DolfanISS
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Yeah I'm with you! I do like Moore a lot. In 11 we had more 30 point + 3 TD pass games then we've seen in awhile, nobody can deny that. Plus Brady Quinn blows! That salary is the only point I can see, very high for a backup QB.
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It is when you fixate on it from this year. He signed a two year $8million contract with $4million guaranteed. How is that a bad deal? That's where I don't get the logic.
Where were the people complaining he was underpaid in the first year of the deal when he got a $1million base? Yet, now there's chirping going on about the last year. Dude was a team player by letting them allocate more money to spending on other priorities. Remember, the team was doing a lot of begging for him to come back. Sherman made a ton of phone calls. Tannehill and a bunch of teammates headed up a group to convince him to return.
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I guess for me I like the 6 WR 2 QB model and I'm trying to figure out why we signed Brady Quinn? Only 3 scenarios I can think of:
1. Have a better QB then Labato to help preseason evaluations of WR's/ TE's.
2. Dump Moore's salary.
3: Trade Moore.
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#1 is the more logical, especially given that both Moore and Devlin were previously hurt. They parted with the obvious one in Devlin. But they still need that 3rd arm in camp to throw balls to people. Should by the grace of God he perform in convincing fashion, enough to make Moore expendable I get it. The team is just doing its due diligence and covering its bases.
Is that likely to happen? The guy who nobody else signed and was basically in a TV booth going to come in 3 weeks before the regular season He's going to absorb the playbook, form chemistry with the players, and somehow show up Moore?
I wanted the Dolphins in 2007 to draft a guy who was highly regarded around the league and seemed a shoe-in for top 10 pick until we found out what the league thought. I wanted the team to start trying to address the QB in the traditional way instead of wasting its time doing everything but. And it's not like the guy they actually drafted that year was any better, and the guy they had to draft a year after that didn't end up being the answer now. I don't blame myself or feel stupid for wanting the Dolphins to draft a QB in the first round when they obviously needed to, I've just learned from that and other instances that I know very little about potential draftees. I do know a whole lot about when guys suck as NFL players, and Quinn sucks.
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He's an eyesore. He's one of the reasons I don't really like to watch college football all that much because mirages like that are so commonplace now. They look good under 1 read systems where they're beating up on bad competition with pure athleticism most of the time.
Then they get to the NFL where they actually have to THINK and the caliber of the defensive players is so much better across the board ........... then BAM, they fall flat on their faces.
That's a good one. Lol