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Ryan Tannehill's Deep Ball Hasn't Improved Since Texas A&M

Fair enough. I've seen a marked improvement from year 1 to 2, from a guy who only has 4 years of QB play under his belt. He's been dealing with no running game, a terrible o-line and had a dinosaur jackass calling plays. 3rd year is the biggest year for young QB's, I don't think it would be wise to waste a high draft pick with all that considered. I think the sky's the limit, if he regresses this year draft a QB high, but we're not there yet. Obviously not gonna change your opinion, or you mine but just my 2 cents that I'm sure you've heard 3,000 times.
He's going to need to do far better than "not regress" for the team not to move on in my opinion. Regardless of the reasons for it, where he's functioning now is not anywhere near associated with high-level competitiveness in the league.
 
He's going to need to do far better than "not regress" for the team not to move on in my opinion. Regardless of the reasons for it, where he's functioning now is not anywhere near associated with high-level competitiveness in the league.

Regress in the sense of where he should be at once year 3 is over. I also don't expect my 2nd year QB to be functioning at an unfair level. The expectations are simply too high right now, year 3 is where we'll see if he's worth his weight. His 2nd year was in line with my expectations and I have plenty of confidence he'll continue to progress.
 
Regress in the sense of where he should be at once year 3 is over. I also don't expect my 2nd year QB to be functioning at an unfair level. The expectations are simply too high right now, year 3 is where we'll see if he's worth his weight. His 2nd year was in line with my expectations and I have plenty of confidence he'll continue to progress.
Personally I think that if he improves, it'll be due more to the acquisition of an offensive coordinator who's able to build a system around his strengths while hiding his weaknesses, rather than to significant individual improvement in his own right. I think he probably is what he is at this point. He now has over a thousand pass attempts in the NFL.
 
He's going to need to do far better than "not regress" for the team not to move on in my opinion. Regardless of the reasons for it, where he's functioning now is not anywhere near associated with high-level competitiveness in the league.

Im not sure how you come to that conclusion but of course Im sure u will choose some numbers that you feel support your argument.
You keep acting like Tannehill is the bottom rung when it comes to qb's and if anything the team has been competitive with him at qb.
He improved year 2 and its likely he will improve year 3.
 
Im not sure how you come to that conclusion but of course Im sure u will choose some numbers that you feel support your argument.
You keep acting like Tannehill is the bottom rung when it comes to qb's and if anything the team has been competitive with him at qb.
He improved year 2 and its likely he will improve year 3.
Based on what?
 
Based on what?
More experience, new OC, better play from line, better play from his receivers. He improved from year one why would he not improve . Our Oc did a bad job, receivers could have played better, line was among the worst the dolphins ever fielded. You do realize these factors help and hurt numbers.
 
More experience, new OC, better play from line, better play from his receivers. He improved from year one why would he not improve . Our Oc did a bad job, receivers could have played better, line was among the worst the dolphins ever fielded. You do realize these factors help and hurt numbers.

Don't get him started.
 
More experience, new OC, better play from line, better play from his receivers. He improved from year one why would he not improve. Our Oc did a bad job, receivers could have played better, line was among the worst the dolphins ever fielded. You do realize these factors help and hurt numbers.
What I realize is that there is no objective support for any of that, and so saying Tannehill is "likely" to improve based on the "improvement" of all of that is also based on nothing objective.

Now, if you want to tell me it's your personal opinion that Tannehill will improve, and leave it at that, well then that'll work.
 
What I realize is that there is no objective support for any of that, and so saying Tannehill is "likely" to improve based on the "improvement" of all of that is also based on nothing objective.

Now, if you want to tell me it's your personal opinion that Tannehill will improve, and leave it at that, well then that'll work.

Im not sure you ever played football. If you have better line play, better receiver play, better oc then there is a good chance for improvement. Just because you choose some number to try to support an argument doesn't make them any more rational lol. Its your personal opinion that he wont, you just choose to find some random numbers to support your argument.
 
Im not sure you ever played football. If you have better line play, better receiver play, better oc then there is a good chance for improvement. Just because you choose some number to try to support an argument doesn't make them any more rational lol. Its your personal opinion that he wont, you just choose to find some random numbers to support your argument.
I never said he wouldn't.
 
Don't get him started.
His numbers are of no consequence. There are too many variables each year to use one set of numbers to show improvement or decline. I mean the people that hate ryan started pimping Flacco as the real franchise qb. I wonder what metric would predict that he would not be very good this year
 
His numbers are of no consequence. There are too many variables each year to use one set of numbers to show improvement or decline. I mean the people that hate ryan started pimping Flacco as the real franchise qb. I wonder what metric would predict that he would not be very good this year
And you figure basing an appraisal of current play and a prediction of improvement on theory is any better? You believe his play was undermined by other facets of the team, and so it must be so?
 
I never said he wouldn't.
So please explain how poor line play does not affect a qb's numbers, or bad play calling or drops, running wrong routes and so on. I don't want a random set of numbers I would like to actually hear an explanation how these don't affect qb numbers
 
So please explain how poor line play does not affect a qb's numbers, or bad play calling or drops, running wrong routes and so on. I don't want a random set of numbers I would like to actually hear an explanation how these don't affect qb numbers
How do we know those things actually happened? Should we believe they really happened just because you think they did?
 
And you figure basing an appraisal of current play and a prediction of improvement on theory is any better? You believe his play was undermined by other facets of the team, and so it must be so?
Bad line play and playcalling affecting qb play is not a theory

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How do we know those things actually happened? Should we believe they really happened just because you think they did?
Hmm maybe watch an actual football game and not just look at box scores
 
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