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Sad News: KC Player Shoots GF, Commits Suicide at Team Facilities.

WVDolphan said:
Im with you in that not all people who committ suicide are cowardly or are bad people. Junior Seau comes to mind. However, I dont think you should be trying to make that argument in this particular case. This POS's suicide was clearly a cowardly act. He took the easy way out after he made a poor split second choice in the heat of an argument.
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I agree that it seems this guy lost control of the moment and killed her and knew he was headed to the pen, couldn't deal with that lifestyle.

As for junior, i read where a lot of his woes were financial. He owed millions to the vegas casinos. That botched suicide attempt when he drove off a cliff was on his sons birthday. Pretty crappy move by a father.
 
WVDolphan said:
Strong words considering you have no idea whether or not this guy suffered from mental illness. What it does appear is that he killed himself as a result of not wanting to deal with the consequences of his actions. He murdered someone and either didnt want to face the music of life in prison or couldnt deal with his own feeling of guilt over it. Cowardly. This is completely different from someone who kills themselves because they are mentally ill.

Im with you in that not all people who committ suicide are cowardly or are bad people. Junior Seau comes to mind. However, I dont think you should be trying to make that argument in this particular case. This POS's suicide was clearly a cowardly act. He took the easy way out after he made a poor split second choice in the heat of an argument.
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Indeed, in all honesty, I personally don't think that this was mental health related. The guy very well could of just been a jealous thug and a snap show, or he very well could of been genuinely mentally ill; either was taking a life in the fashion he did is inexcusable. However, my original posts were levied at the ignorant fools spouting off on how suicide is strickly a cowardly and selfish act; as someone who has had to be talked off the ledge before (figuratively speaking) it hit a sore spot.

I don't think we have any disagreements here.

Edit: Just for the record, since I'll probably not get the chance to say it since I predominantly lurk, your posts are boss.
 
eomdtbtr said:
Indeed, in all honesty, I personally don't think that this was mental health related. The guy very well could of just been a jealous thug and a snap show, or he very well could of been genuinely mentally ill; either was taking a life in the fashion he did is inexcusable. However, my original posts were levied at the ignorant fools spouting off on how suicide is strickly a cowardly and selfish act; as someone who has had to be talked off the ledge before (figuratively speaking) it hit a sore spot.

I don't think we have any disagreements here.

Edit: Just for the record, since I'll probably not get the chance to say it since I predominantly lurk, your posts are boss.
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I hope that any issues you have had are resolved.
 
eomdtbtr said:
Indeed, in all honesty, I personally don't think that this was mental health related. The guy very well could of just been a jealous thug and a snap show, or he very well could of been genuinely mentally ill; either was taking a life in the fashion he did is inexcusable. However, my original posts were levied at the ignorant fools spouting off on how suicide is strickly a cowardly and selfish act; as someone who has had to be talked off the ledge before (figuratively speaking) it hit a sore spot.

I don't think we have any disagreements here.

Edit: Just for the record, since I'll probably not get the chance to say it since I predominantly lurk, your posts are boss.
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Asking this out of genuine curiosity and you dont have to answer if you dont want, but when you were suicidal did you just legitimately think there was no way brighter days were ahead? Thats what always get to me in suicides since Ive had a few hit relatively close to home. Ive had some dark days where I felt depressed and pretty ****ty, but Ive never had a real thought of suicide. Nearly everything in life save for one or two things is possible to fix or come back from. There are always better times on the horizon if you just press on.
 
tylerdolphin said:
Asking this out of genuine curiosity and you dont have to answer if you dont want, but when you were suicidal did you just legitimately think there was no way brighter days were ahead? Thats what always get to me in suicides since Ive had a few hit relatively close to home. Ive had some dark days where I felt depressed and pretty ****ty, but Ive never had a real thought of suicide. Nearly everything in life save for one or two things is possible to fix or come back from. There are always better times on the horizon if you just press on.
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It's a feeling of being enveloped in a fog of utter hopelessness and despair. When you hate yourself you don't deserve brighter days and when you have dysthmic depression as opposed to major depression, you don't get the swings between the highs and lows; it's simply the monotony of existence that's so ****ing tough. It's definitely impossible to properly convey through words, since its such a irrational act. All I know is that the only time I took active steps to end my life, it was a completely impulsive decision; something happened that set me off (something relatively minor) and it was a split second decision and from that moment on it was merely getting everything in place.

The 'to be, or not to be' moments come before in my opinion, people who commit suicide know they want to die. I'm not suicidal at the moment, but it still doesn't change the fact that I'd prefer to be dead; as an atheist, it would just be like slipping into a peaceful permanent sleep. The act of suicide itself is impulsive. But then again, keep in mind I'm only speaking from personal experience here, it could very well be different for everyone.

I didn't mean to turn this about myself, or turn this thread into some sort of pillow to cry out my emotions into; however I think it is important to speak up on the prevalence of suicide and mental health issues, since the stigma associated with it is stifling and is a big reason why people who need help, never reach out to get it; I'm sorry to hear that people you knew and cared about are some of them.
 
"For jealousy enrages a man's fury, therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance" (Proverbs 6:34)
 
What does this have to do with the dolphins?
 
WVDolphan said:
Im with you in that not all people who committ suicide are cowardly or are bad people. Junior Seau comes to mind. However, I dont think you should be trying to make that argument in this particular case. This POS's suicide was clearly a cowardly act. He took the easy way out after he made a poor split second choice in the heat of an argument.
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He followed through with it and at least he didn't ***** out...dint want tax dollars going toward paying for his room and board for life...tragic incident but at least he took himself our too
 
CattailsrEdible said:
Ridiculous to you maybe, but not me! I never pointed my response towards anyone! Some people here are allowed to attack others, and its wrong! And you know it

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Its was a straight up troll post trying to bait angry responses.
 
I've lost a few friends and family members in my life but they have only been from natural accidents and health problems. I can only imagine what its like to lose someone close to you by suicide, it has to be very tough to deal with it. These families right now are suffering and need support/counseling. The nfl has offered it to the chiefs but they should go the extra mile and get the players family involved also because they need it the most. I hope theres some sort of foundation that is created from all this and its dedicated to helping people with suicidal thoughts.
 
I heard Belcher has been downgraded to doubtful for Sunday's game.
 
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