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The offensive line is such a tough unit to be forced to tinker during TC/Preseason. We always hear about "gel" and "chemistry"....it seem obvious that we need a competent center. One botched snap can literally cost you a game, and I don't think the Miami Dolphins can afford a botched snap to cost us a game. Period. Sign Satele and put him in sooner rather than later.
 
russianbear said:
The offensive line is such a tough unit to be forced to tinker during TC/Preseason. We always hear about "gel" and "chemistry"....it seem obvious that we need a competent center. One botched snap can literally cost you a game, and I don't think the Miami Dolphins can afford a botched snap to cost us a game. Period. Sign Satele and put him in sooner rather than later.
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Ya I'm starting to think the "gel" and "chemistry" really just boils down to whether somebody can do their job and not miss assignments based on all of the calls. If they all know the playbook deep, and at least play average, we'll benefit. No excuse to miss an assignment when you KNOW what play is coming.
 
russianbear said:
The offensive line is such a tough unit to be forced to tinker during TC/Preseason. We always hear about "gel" and "chemistry"....it seem obvious that we need a competent center. One botched snap can literally cost you a game, and I don't think the Miami Dolphins can afford a botched snap to cost us a game. Period. Sign Satele and put him in sooner rather than later.
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IMO this staff has a fatal flaw in their team building philosophy. Think seem to think they can take a player from one position and convert them into something else. Let's put a seam tight end at FB. Nope. How about moving a guard to center or tackle to guard. Nope again. How about moving the QB out to WR and having the RB run the play. Nope. I get the whole utility player thing for a quick fix or a novelty, but not as a starter. This philosophy has never worked. They've done this crap since they've been here and the only success story I can think of is moving Charles Clay from FB to TE, but even a blind hog can find an acorn every once in a while! The other major issue they have is when something clearly isn't working they go into blinders mode, keep doing what doesn't work and doggedly defend it despite total failure. See our offense the last three years.

Now we are seeing a MAJOR problem with the most important position on the o-line and they are making the same mistake again, trying to turn chicken crap into chicken salad. Nope again. Go out and sign or trade for a frickin center for God's sake and quit farting around. At this rate they will have a revelation that we need a center sometime after our third preseason game, and all the good centers will be gone. Even worse, there is no guarantee that Pouncey will fully recover from his injury or even walk away from this concerning lawsuit. What a bunch of buffoons.
 
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dolphinheel said:
IMO this staff has a fatal flaw in their team building philosophy. Think seem to think they can take a player from one position and convert them into something else. Let's put a seam tight end at FB. Nope. How about moving a guard to center or tackle to guard. Nope again. How about moving the QB out to WR and having the RB run the play. Nope. I get the whole utility player thing for a quick fix or a novelty, but not as a starter. This philosophy has never worked. They've done this crap since they've been here and the only success story I can think of is moving Charles Clay from FB to TE, but even a blind hog can find an acorn every once in a while! The other major issue they have is when something clearly isn't working they go into blinders mode, keep doing what doesn't work and doggedly defend it despite total failure. See our offense the last three years.

Now we are seeing a MAJOR problem with the most important position on the o-line and they are making the same mistake again, trying to turn chicken crap into chicken salad. Nope again. Go out and sign or trade for a frickin center for God's sake and quit farting around. At this rate they will have a revelation that we need a center some time after our third preseason game, and all the good centers will be gone. Even worse, there is no guarantee that Pouncey will fully recover from his injury or even walk away from this concerning lawsuit. What a bunch of buffoons.
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Gold, Jerry! GOLD!!

Are you the same guy that thought Satele was already with us and had been the whole time?
 
Centers

Kyle Cook CIN
Ryan Cook DAL
Dan Koppen DEN
Steve Vallos DEN
Dylan Gandy DET
Samson Satele IND
David Baas NYG
Jim Cordle NYG
Andre Gurode OAK

Not a great list unless we can trade for someone's back up center which can't see happening till close to last cuts from another teams standpoint. Maybe late in pre season if someone needs a WR but still probably not a high probability of happening.
 
roy_miami said:
Soooo....Joe Philbin is getting the blame for the wildcat now?
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Sooooo, I write what I thought were two well thought out paragraphs about something that concerns and frustrates almost all of us and the best you can bring to this discussion is this? Is that you Joe?
 
If the bad snaps are bothering you, just wait until we see defenses other than pre season vanilla where the C has to make line calls.

We better find a real C sooner or later IMO.
 
Dolphin North said:
If the bad snaps are bothering you, just wait until we see defenses other than pre season vanilla where the C has to make line calls.

We better find a real C sooner or later IMO.
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Totally agree. We must make a move immediately. I'm personally not all in on Satele, I just want an experienced center that can lead this very inexperienced o-line until Pouncey gets back.
 
For those interested in Satele, the Colts LG Donald Brown tore his quad yesterday. While not necessarily a positional relevance, I would say Satele is signed by Colts or Dolphins today. Regardless of the merits of the decision for us to sign him and his ability to help this team, he has found himself in a bargaining position now. And will more than likely be signed soon by someone.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4937/donald-thomas
 
roy_miami said:
We know this how? What we know is Philbin wanted to cut a decent cornfed with a relatively big salary after an alleged sexual assault. Didn't happen. We know that Philbin wanted to trade for Albert and do God knows what with Martin after trying to kill himself. Didn't happen.

So I don't know what your definition of decision making is or how you conclude it was a team effort but I can confidently say the o-line would have looked a helluva lot different had Philbin had any decision making power whatsoever.
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I'm sorry but Philbin was part of the decision making process and he brought in Sherman and Turner. It wasn't until everything fell apart and Ireland was gone that we started to hear that Philbin wanted something different. He is the HC, and supposing for just one moment that Ireland made all the personnel hiring decisions, we still have to hang who played on Philbin and Turner. Philbin could have benched Ratfink and Lugnut and we still could have acheived 58 sacks. And by his own words, he didn't want to let Sherman go, so I don't buy that helpless - no power - no decision making authority vibe he sent out ... I call that CYA, excuse making and revisionist history.
 
My fear realized in my last post. He who hesitates is lost.
 
NCFINFAN13 said:
I'm sorry but Philbin was part of the decision making process and he brought in Sherman and Turner. It wasn't until everything fell apart and Ireland was gone that we started to hear that Philbin wanted something different. He is the HC, and supposing for just one moment that Ireland made all the personnel hiring decisions, we still have to hang who played on Philbin and Turner. Philbin could have benched Ratfink and Lugnut and we still could have acheived 58 sacks. And by his own words, he didn't want to let Sherman go, so I don't buy that helpless - no power - no decision making authority vibe he sent out ... I call that CYA, excuse making and revisionist history.
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LOLZ. We debated throughout the season on how much power he had and it was obvious, at least to me, Philbin didn't have much, so those leaks are evidence I was right, not "revisionist history." The people now trying to pin the o-line personnel, poor offense, bully-gate and even the wildcat on Philbin are the revisionist historians.

O-line: Philbin wanted Albert, Ireland said no
Poor offense: Ireland gave us Hartline and Bess as our top two receivers for the rookie Tannehill. Ireland spent less on offense than every team in the league in 2013 while retaining the fifth most in disposable cap space
Bully-gate: Martin was a spaz, again though, could have been avoided had Ireland made the Albert trade
Wildcat: That was Sparano, who was almost as bad as Ireland
 
NCFINFAN13 said:
I'm sorry but Philbin was part of the decision making process and he brought in Sherman and Turner. It wasn't until everything fell apart and Ireland was gone that we started to hear that Philbin wanted something different. He is the HC, and supposing for just one moment that Ireland made all the personnel hiring decisions, we still have to hang who played on Philbin and Turner. Philbin could have benched Ratfink and Lugnut and we still could have acheived 58 sacks. And by his own words, he didn't want to let Sherman go, so I don't buy that helpless - no power - no decision making authority vibe he sent out ... I call that CYA, excuse making and revisionist history.
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Exactly my Tar Hell brother! He also oversaw the ugliest scandal in the NFL in many years, maybe ever. Let's not kid ourselves, he is the leader and he is responsible for everything that goes on in this franchise. He does have an opportunity to make amends but continuing to make the same mistakes over and over and over again is not a good sign. Leaders are decisive and not overly analytical. When they see a problem they fix it immediately. If we do not sign a C by the weekend then it shows me that he has learned nothing. We are in deep trouble on the o-line, and anyone who doesn't see it has their head up their a$$.
 
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