Should Ireland and/or Philbin be Fired?

[Valandui]

Yes.

 

[Shouright]

Two-thirds (67%) of the people who have voted think Joe Philbin should not be fired.

 

[tfh_rules]

Fired for what, the Martin/Incognito situation? Hell no.


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[Awsi Dooger]

I wouldn't mind seeing a great lab experiment of Cameron and Mueller re-hired. How would the Dolphin Digest handle news like that? Guys who haven't written a negative word in decades would be put to the test. Ross' introductory press conference would be a riot. We'd be the talk of the league. I wonder what our season win over/under would be? Season ticket numbers? Local talk radio. Threads here. The team's PR theme for the year?

Sad part is, in the grand scope it probably wouldn't make much difference at all, compared to who we actually name.

 

[roy_miami]

I'll vote in a few weeks.

 

[finfan54]

Ireland, Philbin, Sherman, line coaches, scouting department, Aponte, whoever the figurehead present guy is, all of them.

I keep the support staff and blue-collar folks. Everyone else goes!

Blue Collar folks? sounds like pure pearls of wisdom here.

 

[DeathStar]

we need to do what ganggreen does....make one and only threads...

One for firing
One for fiasco
One for tannehill

All new stuff is discussed in those 3 threads...

 

[finfan54]

so who should be our coach Deathstar?

 

[alexwr4]

Both -- forget about about the Martin/Incognito incident, I am tired of continuing to see mediocrity year after year after year. This is a mediocre football team -- nothing more, nothing less.

You should be support another team. I dont think hiring another coach for 2 years lead us to superbowl.

By the way I need to apologize if this is bullying to you. :)

 

[finfan54]

I wouldn't fire anyone over this Martin/Incognito fiasco... but I want them all fired for "football" reasons. This team has been out-coached in the second half of every game; the only wins were due to the occasional big play on the field, and not anything that can be credited to the coaching staff. I can give Ireland a pass for missing on some draft picks, as that happens to everyone. But, Ross wanted to see major improvement this year, and Ireland basically wasted the entire draft. Sturgis is starting, but everyone else was injured, and/or a "project"; including the #3 pick in the draft. The o-line needed upgrading, but Ireland only brought in a few banged-up older Free Agents. Even though Miami led the league in giving up sacks, the coaching staff made no changes in personnel or schemes to try and fix the problem. In fact, nothing at all was done until after the meeting with Ross, when Ireland got McKinnie.

Oh, and the person who decided to make Martin the starting LT indirectly caused this whole mess. Martin was too weak to be starting; he's more of a project than a starter. If decent starting caliber linemen had been brought in, then Martin would not have been under intense pressure to perform immediately.

Every game? Seriously? I have every game taped. Sure you want to back that one up?

 

[royalshank]

Ireland for the following:

1. Inability to build a talented roster = 4 straight losing seasons (this is really the only reason needed - the stuff below is more the "why" we've had 4 straight losing seasons - and not really necessary but it will help me sleep better tonight getting this out there)
2. Inability to draft high-impact players - where is our rookie draft class? Even our best draft pick - a freakin kicker - went into a 1-6 slump streak and cost us at least one game (Buffalo) and possibly two (Baltimore). I'm sorry, but if you are going to draft a kicker, he better not ever go 1-6 during any point in his career.
3. Inability to get good trade value (see Wes Welker, Vontae Davis, Brandon Marshall = botched the three biggest trades of his tenure); add in trading up for Daniel "can't convert a short yardage situation" Thomas for good measure. Come to think of it, has there been a single trade he's executed where we can say, "yeah, we got the better end of that deal"? I'm not being a wise-ass - I really can't think of one - and I'm even reaching into the irrelevant depths such as Greg Camarillo to the Vikings for that complete failure Benny Sapp type trades. A little help here? McKinnie perhaps?
4. Inability to not say stupid things (see Dez Bryant, Martin's agent, the fight with that fan)
5. Inability to properly identify which FA's we should (a) retain such as Reggie Bush - sorry haters - Bush was real good for us and he's even better w Detroit right now and he's > Lamar Miller will ever be + he's a professional and has great work ethic - I think we are seeing that leadership among the players is not a commodity easy to come by, (b) let walk - see Jake Long - our O'line was a hot mess before Incog and Martin threatened to kill each other and yeah, I know Long was benched this year but he's playing very well right now and if we weren't sold on Martin as our LT then we should have retained Long and all his injuries unless there was a better option, (c) target - when Brandon Gibson (who I like) is your best FA acquisition I'm sorry but that's an epic fail in my book.

I really can't stand this guy - "I have picks and I have money" - well, so far the picks and money = same record after 8 games last year - in spite of the fact that our QB has made developmental strides.

I hope Ross fires him. But this little weasel is a survivor - I'll give him that.

 

[gofins60]

Every game? Seriously? I have every game taped. Sure you want to back that one up?

Okay, maybe saying every game is stretching it a bit. But, I will say that I believe Philbin and Sherman are ultimately responsible for an offense that tends to disappear in the 2nd half.

 

[Coolguy3]

I like the development of Tannehill and I like Philbin. I'm ok with Ireland going but I'd like to see Philbin stay.

 

[joeharley666]

Ireland is not even debatable. We know what we have with him. Some hits and some misses, but not enough hits to get us over the top.
Philbin is only halfway through his second year and has grown and his two minute offense and his red zone offense is enough for me to keep him and ride out the season. He stepped into a bad situation and deserves to try and save his job

 

[royalshank]

Ireland is not even debatable. We know what we have with him. Some hits and some misses, but not enough hits to get us over the top.
Philbin is only halfway through his second year and has grown and his two minute offense and his red zone offense is enough for me to keep him and ride out the season. He stepped into a bad situation and deserves to try and save his job

agree 100%