Should the Dolphins trade for Ryan Ramczyk?

[RedFive]

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

How do you screw it up this badly?

First, you have an older team and a QB who is making a lot of money for a long time. Then, to keep your team together for that last year (or two), you convert two or three of your most highly paid player's salaries to bonus money in order to sneak under the salary cap. This allowed them to survive in 2019, and in 2020... but when these players leave... WHAMMO, all that bonus money comes due against the cap... and all at once.

If you've EVER seen a story where a veteran star consents to having his contract renegotiated, and you also hear that he didn't lose any money... this is what happened, and it is an eventual cap killer. It is the DUMBEST thing a GM can do unless he thinks he is in legitimate contention for that year's Super Bowl... and even then, it's not the wisest move.

The Chiefs are heading that way. When you consent to paying a QB as much as the top couple make, it is only a matter of time before you are over-extended.

Puts more pressure on the scouting dept and draft boards.

 

[Feverdream]

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That's the one!

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

This years Bills look like last years Chiefs. Just toying with the opposition for a quarter and then going for the jugular. I think the Chiefs are kind of satisfied for now. It’s hard to be fat and happy and defend the throne.

Na. Those cats are ready to roll. Don't get it twisted.

And if they both make it to the Championship game, it will be entertaining.

 

[Feverdream]

Puts more pressure on the scouting dept and draft boards.

This is one of the reasons why I am so sky high on the compensation pick strategy that New England employs... they may not net a great amount of picks from this strategy, but they get something back... and they live another day without destroying their cap.

 

[BigNastyFish]

Your Googling skills are impressive, but it was from the Piranha Brothers sketch where Dinsdale Piranha believed he was being pursued by a giant hedgehog named Spiny Norman.

Sounds to me someone plagiarized someone else's story!

BNF smells a hedgehog in the woodpile!

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

This is one of the reasons why I am so sky high on the compensation pick strategy that New England employs... they may not net a great amount of picks from this strategy, but they get something back... and they live another day without destroying their cap.

NE or GB, both are determined in the model.

KC will fall back on Reid and Veach to maintain youthful cheap talent. Experience and results buys you that.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

I really love the idea. It sounds plausible as well.

What would Miami be looking at salary-wise and what would the Dolphins have to give up?

Most likely, I expect Miami to be minor players in free agency and to rely heavily on the draft. I don't think the team will take on a lot of payroll.

 

[Danny]

No kidding, The Saints could be 100 million over the cap this spring. Seriously, if the cap drops to 176 mil they are going to a place beyond hell because they are already in cap hell.

They can trade Marshon Lattimore and Ryan Ramczyk and actually I don't think there is any chance that they don't. They are just so screwed it's phenomenal.

Ram is universally recognized as one of the best run blocking RT's , not just in the last few years, but ever. In 2019 he gave up zero sacks and played every game. In 2020 he showed some humanity and did give up 2 sacks. Kamara and Brees get all the credit but......

He is due 11 mil on his fifth year option. The saints could clear all of it.

Of the teams with more cap room than us, none of them would appear to be in the market for a RT. We could be the best trade partner here; nobody else has our kind of draft capital to work with.

If the Dolphins do sign Corey Linsley(#1 NFL center) in free agency and acquire Ram in trade it could give the Dolphins an offensive line like we haven't seen in memory. Not just great but deep as well.

Just asking here, what exactly are you wanting to trade in order to get him?

 

[royalshank]

Maybe not your memory....I remember a line that contained Norm Evans, Bob Kuechenberg, Jim Langer, Larry Little and Wayne Moore....

Add Ed Newman to that list - what a group go athletic maulers. They don’t make them like that anymore.

 

[Vaark]

I thought you were exaggerating with the Saints salary cap. How did the Saints screw up that badly?!

Curious what Miami would have to trade to get him? Rather Miami take Penei Sewell if they're asking for a first. And I can't see Corey Linsley leaving Green Bay with the way Aaron Rodgers is still playing

Jeff Ireland is their Asst GM (although I read he's scheduled for a GM interview, I forget with whom... but good luck to them)

 

[BlueFin]

Add Ed Newman to that list - what a group go athletic maulers. They don’t make them like that anymore.

Yes...drafted in 73’...became a multi-time pro bowler in the early 80’s...Got to play with Griese and Marino.

In 1983.....Kuechenberg, Stephenson and Newman were pro bowlers for Marino’s rookie year.

 

[Alex Trevelyan]

NE or GB, both are determined in the model.

KC will fall back on Reid and Veach to maintain youthful cheap talent. Experience and results buys you that.

The Ravens are the kings of the comp pick strategy. They've had more than any team since the system was set up. They've been awarded 2-3 3d Rd picks multiple times because they just let good players walk, but in order to really exploit it you must draft at a high level or all you end up with is some spare picks in the 6-7th rounds. That's the difference between them and the Patriots.

 

[Michael Scott]

Target Marcus Williams in FA please.

They can't afford to keep him.

 

[phinphan4life]

I still would like to know (in theory) what it would take in trade to get Ramczyk in a Dolphins uniform. Seems like a no brainer, if we can make the numbers work.