Roman529
Moon Runner / The 3 AM Crew
I think 8 wins is realistic.....We have a very tough schedule and the AFC is much tougher than the NFC so a playoff shot is iffy, but we should be much better than 4-12. I'm optimistic. :)
So many Dolfans have so little faith.
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raving
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So far in the couple of hours that this thing has been on the board many dolfans have proven my point. What is this cynicism? Where does it come from? Is it true for all fanbases? I can say FOR SURE that it is not true in the DC area. I have suffered being a Dolphin fan in this neck of the woods for the first 22 years (1965 to 1987) of my life and now for the past 5 years (2001 to present). Every year, according to the idiotic fanbase around here, the Deadskins are going to the Superbowl, and nobody can stop them. They even hired the one and only coach back that once actually made a championship come true for them. But I digress - What I think I see here, on this fan site, is unprecedented. So many realists that see the glass half empty.
The realists are not wrong - all of what they say about Miami is true -questionable offensive line, Q quarterback, Q db's, Q linebackers or whatever they say. I could argue that anyone or all of these aspects of our system have been and are being adequately addressed.
No team in the NFL goes into this season or any other in the past 5 without big question marks. Teams win by being solid accross the board. The Colts lose because they have Offense, but like Marino teams of yesteryear lack Defense in a big way. KC the same. and the Vikings.
I'll take my argument further - lets say the refs make the CORRECT call in the playoff game 4 years ago - Oakland vs NE - and Oakland gets the W they deserve and go on to the Superbowl. I believe that this then changes the very destiny of both franchises in recent years. Also last year the Jets squandered their golden opportunity to go to the championship game - I call it bad coaching because BOZO missed his first field goal attempt, then in over time they gave the guy another chance and he blew it again. Had they won would they have gone to the Superbowl? Since they did not will they begin to crumble and fall apart? I think the answer is YES!
Miami is a total dark horse at this point, which only serves us best. Saban is ultra conservative about talking about his successes. He is modest and downplays what he has accomplished and what might come from his ability to acquire players and coaches that will help create a winning atmosphere. He is not waiting a year to make it big. He is keeping it low key so that he can create a no lose situation for himself and his players and also create a psychological edge in the locker-room by saying to his players "everybody predicts us to fail, so are you failures?" Seau's return told me that this year Miami is going for all the marbles and I believe we have as good a shot as anybody.
The realists are not wrong - all of what they say about Miami is true -questionable offensive line, Q quarterback, Q db's, Q linebackers or whatever they say. I could argue that anyone or all of these aspects of our system have been and are being adequately addressed.
No team in the NFL goes into this season or any other in the past 5 without big question marks. Teams win by being solid accross the board. The Colts lose because they have Offense, but like Marino teams of yesteryear lack Defense in a big way. KC the same. and the Vikings.
I'll take my argument further - lets say the refs make the CORRECT call in the playoff game 4 years ago - Oakland vs NE - and Oakland gets the W they deserve and go on to the Superbowl. I believe that this then changes the very destiny of both franchises in recent years. Also last year the Jets squandered their golden opportunity to go to the championship game - I call it bad coaching because BOZO missed his first field goal attempt, then in over time they gave the guy another chance and he blew it again. Had they won would they have gone to the Superbowl? Since they did not will they begin to crumble and fall apart? I think the answer is YES!
Miami is a total dark horse at this point, which only serves us best. Saban is ultra conservative about talking about his successes. He is modest and downplays what he has accomplished and what might come from his ability to acquire players and coaches that will help create a winning atmosphere. He is not waiting a year to make it big. He is keeping it low key so that he can create a no lose situation for himself and his players and also create a psychological edge in the locker-room by saying to his players "everybody predicts us to fail, so are you failures?" Seau's return told me that this year Miami is going for all the marbles and I believe we have as good a shot as anybody.
A real fan hopes for the SB every year, but anybody who actually expects is just being stupid. I don't believe that stupidity is required to achieve fan status.
jlfin
old pro
raving said:
I agree with you. The talent level on this team is closer (or better) than the talent on the Dolphin teams from 2-3 seasons ago (10-6 and 9-7 records).
The major difference now is that the coaching is vastly superior. I expect at least a 9-7 record. It would not surprise me at all if Feeley had a breakout year and this team was 11-5. It all depends on how fast the players adapt to the new systems on offense and defense. Additionally, the O-line is a young one and arguably has better talent (less experience) than the O-line from 2-3 seasons ago.
JUSTWINFINS
JUSTWINFINS
8-9 thats to many gms.:goof:kebort said:
I wonder what all you guys would think if you went to a 49ers message board and they were saying they were going to the playoffs?? We are looked at from other NFL fans as being in there league. By us being fans we sometimes lose perspective.
The Chargers had a great turn around last year and the Panthers did it a few years back but both had coaches that were in, at least there 2nd year. I believe if things continue the way they are going we could be that team NEXT year but not this one. There is just too many things that would have to happen. We have major questions at QB, OL, DB, SS and DT. I personally think the OL will be solid, and baring injury DT, could be ok. QB is a 50/50 deal with AJ and teams can win without great DBs and saftey can be covered with great DL play, but for all of that to happen in one year with as many great teams in the AFC is a little too much to ask for.
Could it all happen, yes and I could win the lottery also, but I wouldn't go around bragging about the fact that I am probably going to be the next power ball winner. The odds are against us and I won't get my hopes up when the odds are against it happening. That does not make me a less of a fan, it just shows I have a sense of reality. I love the Dolphins and will hurt after every loss and will go nuts if it all falls into place and we DO go to the playoffs, but I can also get excited about heading in the right direction. And I REALLY believe we are.
As for what I predict?? I would be disappointed if we didn't improve to at least 6-10, even with the tougher schedule. I would not at all be surprised by 8-8. However anything above that I feel is gravy. IMO
The Chargers had a great turn around last year and the Panthers did it a few years back but both had coaches that were in, at least there 2nd year. I believe if things continue the way they are going we could be that team NEXT year but not this one. There is just too many things that would have to happen. We have major questions at QB, OL, DB, SS and DT. I personally think the OL will be solid, and baring injury DT, could be ok. QB is a 50/50 deal with AJ and teams can win without great DBs and saftey can be covered with great DL play, but for all of that to happen in one year with as many great teams in the AFC is a little too much to ask for.
Could it all happen, yes and I could win the lottery also, but I wouldn't go around bragging about the fact that I am probably going to be the next power ball winner. The odds are against us and I won't get my hopes up when the odds are against it happening. That does not make me a less of a fan, it just shows I have a sense of reality. I love the Dolphins and will hurt after every loss and will go nuts if it all falls into place and we DO go to the playoffs, but I can also get excited about heading in the right direction. And I REALLY believe we are.
As for what I predict?? I would be disappointed if we didn't improve to at least 6-10, even with the tougher schedule. I would not at all be surprised by 8-8. However anything above that I feel is gravy. IMO
jlfin
old pro
Waldop said:
Things change very fast in this league. With all the mini camps, QB schools and training camp teams can get their timing down pretty quick if the coaching staff knows what they are doing. We are not talking astro-physics here. This is football. There is also a big difference between being a SB contender and simply being competitive. There is no doubt that this team will be competitive (too much talent and good coaching). I don't see how you can say this team won't be competitive. I have a feeling that many teams are going to underestimate this team, come in over-confident and get their butts handed to them. That will change by mid-season.
BTW, I don't consider a 9-7 or 10-6 team a SB contender and very few on this site are expressing SB aspirations this year. Most people are reasonable and expect them to compete for a playoff spot (doesn't mean they will get one).
Wagon Circler
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The dolphins, on paper, have the potential to be a good team. There is however, a variable outside of the dolphins control, and that is how stacked the AFC is. Any other year I could see a complete turn around, but the AFC (not just ACFE) is full of powerhouse teams. 6-10 to 8-8 is my fins prediction.
Ps. Just one man's opinion. No need to threaten me or anything, I come in peace.
Ps. Just one man's opinion. No need to threaten me or anything, I come in peace.
jlfin
old pro
TARHEEL38 said:
49ers have been a bottom dweller for a few yrs now. They have been needing an overhaul. Not the same situation with the phins. We still have a good core of players. 6-10 would be a major disappointment IMO (Sabans also, I would imagine).
Wagon Circler
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Very nice post. I agree completely.TARHEEL38 said:
I think we could be a superbowl contender this season. Yes, i am serious.
Alot of people think David Boston is a headcase, and forget how much potential the man really has. He is up there with TO/Randy Moss pure talent wise. He only agreed to a one year-vets minimum to show the NFL what a talent he is, so he can get his stock up. Last season in training camp i only heard positives about this guy. If Boston lives up to his potential we will be a VERY scary team.
Alot of people are also forgeting about Ricky Williams, the man who led the NFL in rushing behind the worst O-line in the league. If Ricky returns to his old self which isn't out of the question. He's given it 110% whenever he put on that uniform. He also has social anxiety, his WORST fear is to average 2 ypc for the dolphins and be the laughing stock of the NFL. If Ricky returns, does well, the media will portrey him as a man who had a drug problem, overcame it and came back to football. I think he doesn't like his image and wants to improve it. He knows more about his body then he did a year ago, taking a year off of football could make him a better player. A ricky williams/ronnie brown combo would be deadly.
the offensive line is also a big question mark. We now have the best O-line coach in the league and have Stocker Mcdougle. If hudson houck can make our o-line average we will be very deadly.
I think we could go 14-2 in 2005, or go 6-10. I think we have potential though.
Alot of people think David Boston is a headcase, and forget how much potential the man really has. He is up there with TO/Randy Moss pure talent wise. He only agreed to a one year-vets minimum to show the NFL what a talent he is, so he can get his stock up. Last season in training camp i only heard positives about this guy. If Boston lives up to his potential we will be a VERY scary team.
Alot of people are also forgeting about Ricky Williams, the man who led the NFL in rushing behind the worst O-line in the league. If Ricky returns to his old self which isn't out of the question. He's given it 110% whenever he put on that uniform. He also has social anxiety, his WORST fear is to average 2 ypc for the dolphins and be the laughing stock of the NFL. If Ricky returns, does well, the media will portrey him as a man who had a drug problem, overcame it and came back to football. I think he doesn't like his image and wants to improve it. He knows more about his body then he did a year ago, taking a year off of football could make him a better player. A ricky williams/ronnie brown combo would be deadly.
the offensive line is also a big question mark. We now have the best O-line coach in the league and have Stocker Mcdougle. If hudson houck can make our o-line average we will be very deadly.
I think we could go 14-2 in 2005, or go 6-10. I think we have potential though.
Wagon Circler
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This is definately a matter of debate.pwn3dyo said:
14-2? Really?
PassRush
Drunken Sailor
pwn3dyo said:
I agree with you, This is David Bostons last oportunity to prove that he belongs in the top five reciever argument and I think he can dominate defensive backs. I would go more in depth, but I have to go to work:shakeno: