Stephen Ross is the real problem

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Ross is a bumbling fool as a owner. He might be a real estate guru, but as a NFL he is a putz. There is a hell of a lot more to it than just opening a checkbook. What Ross has failed miserably at is building a Championship Culture in Miami. Ross biggest fault is he continues to put the wrong people in positions to build that culture. Mike Tannebuam is not the answer! Just look at embarrassing scandals under Ross.

Bullygate.
Courting Harbaugh while not firing Sparano.
Extending Sparano, dumb round table meeting giving Sparano more power.
Firing Sparano after extension.
Keeping Ireland.
Flying Jeff Fisher in his helicopter on dinner dates.
Hiring Philbin after having several coaches withdraw their names from Consideration.
Extending Ireland.
Firing Ireland.
Going through 6 candidates to find a GM. Even having Farmer tell him he would rather stay in CLEVELAND.
Hiring Hickey as GM who was never more than a glorified scout in Tampa and was about to be fired.
Hiring Tannebuam making him a Czar.
Firing Hickey.
Timmons Awol.
Coach videoing himself doing blow in his office at team headquarters.
Coach sending video to a hooker.
Hooker posting video and threatening to post more.
Hooker smashing the Dolphins in the post.

I am sure there are many more bloopers I forgot. Simply saying Ross is a god owner because he cuts checks and is hands off is a very low bar. The Patriots are good because Kraft built a winning culture he is involved and knows how to hire successful people.

Can Jerry Springer afford a team? Just sell it to him, that is how the organization functions. Like a Jerry Springer Show. At least then we can throw chairs at them when they are just out there going through the motions.
You've had this post saved as a draft somewhere for like two years, just waiting to hit 'send', haven't you?
 

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You've had this post saved as a draft somewhere for like two years, just waiting to hit 'send', haven't you?
Yeah it is my fault the Dolphins are a three ring circus with two rings on fire. Always the fans fault. Let me guess the Blow Dealer was a Dolphins fan so it is his fault this dipshit made a video snorting blow from team headquarters and sent it to a hooker.
 

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You've had this post saved as a draft somewhere for like two years, just waiting to hit 'send', haven't you?
Yeah it is my fault the Dolphins are a three ring circus with two rings on fire. Always the fans fault. Let me guess the Blow Dealer was a Dolphins fan so it is his fault this dipshit made a video snorting blow from team headquarters and sent it to a hooker.
 

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Btw I don't mind him flying head coaching candidates around in the chopper lol you do what you gotta do to close the deal
 

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Btw I don't mind him flying head coaching candidates around in the chopper lol you do what you gotta do to close the deal
But it's Fisher, the only place Ross should be flying him is away.
 

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Without Ross we would probably end up like the Chargers. We have a owner who spent around 400 MILLION of his own dollars to upgrade the stadium so we would be able to host big events like the Superbowl. He could have easily kept his 400 MILLION dollars and moved the team to a place willing to pay for a new stadium so he then would make money from the new stadium with big events being held there. Sorry i'm not blaming a man who is willing to spend that kind of money in order to make the fans happy. He genuinely cares about the fans and not only about Miami fan. Remember he was the only owner to vote against the Chargers moving in order to get a new stadium. Find a Chargers fan and ask them if they would trade you owners!
 

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How do you know that it was Kraft who built the winning culture and not Belichick or Brady?
Because the Patriots were a floundering joke till Kraft bought the team. He made sweeping changes when he bought them and the results are undeniable. Since Kraft bought the team, they have made the playoffs 18 times in 23 years. They won AFC East titles in 1996, 1997, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016; they represented the AFC in the Super Bowl that concluded each of the following seasons: 1996 (lost), 2001 (won), 2003 (won), 2004 (won), 2007 (lost), 2011(lost), 2014 (won), and 2016 (won). The Patriots finished the 2003, 2004, 2010, and 2016 seasons with identical 14–2 regular-season records – after having never won more than 11 games prior to Kraft buying the team. That started before Belichik and Brady.
 

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This is such a bad thread. Do people not realize we actually have one of the best owners in the league? It took him a couple seasons to figure it out but there is no denying his desire to build us a winner. Even the "mistake" he made trying to hire a coach while having one under contract was actually the right decision just done the wrong way. He spends all the money needed, stays out of the football operations side and even spends his own money upgrading the stadium.
 

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Because the Patriots were a floundering joke till Kraft bought the team. He made sweeping changes when he bought them and the results are undeniable. Since Kraft bought the team, they have made the playoffs 18 times in 23 years. They won AFC East titles in 1996, 1997, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016; they represented the AFC in the Super Bowl that concluded each of the following seasons: 1996 (lost), 2001 (won), 2003 (won), 2004 (won), 2007 (lost), 2011(lost), 2014 (won), and 2016 (won). The Patriots finished the 2003, 2004, 2010, and 2016 seasons with identical 14–2 regular-season records – after having never won more than 11 games prior to Kraft buying the team. That started before Belichik and Brady.
What were those sweeping changes? I'm just asking because I don't know what he did exactly. The results speak for themselves but then again, Kraft's also the owner of the MLS club New England Revolution and they haven't won anything in 20 years.
 

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What were those sweeping changes? I'm just asking because I don't know what he did exactly. The results speak for themselves but then again, Kraft's also the owner of the MLS club New England Revolution and they haven't won anything in 20 years.
Cleaned house top to bottom. Installed a winning culture, holds people accountable, if they don't perform they are gone.
 

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This thread will be fun to bump again at the end of the year when this idiot gives Tannenbaum an extension to cap off a 6 win season.
 

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This thread will be fun to bump again at the end of the year when this idiot gives Tannenbaum an extension to cap off a 6 win season.
Don't worry. I'm sure even at that point the resident Dolphins apologists will be out in force to argue that the Dolphins, Ross, Tannenbaum, Gase, etc. are the best ever, every decision they make is right, and a Super Bowl is right around the corner.

Ross and co. cant fail. They can only be failed. :rolleyes:
 

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The problem is that our front office sucks at evaluating talent, and then when it actually stumbles into some talent like a blind squirrel tripping over a nut, we don't bother to re-sign them, and instead throw money at free agents from other teams.

Here's a great example: Rishard Matthews. He was a Miami Dolphin who was drafted and then developed by the team for FOUR YEARS. Finally, in 2015, he had the chance to start (mostly by accident) and here's what happened when he was targeted:

2015: 61 targets, 43 receptions, 662 yards, 4 touchdowns, 1 interception. Passer Rating: 121.1(!) - overall team passer rating was 88.9. When targeted, passing offense was 32.2 rating points better(!) than team average.

Then we let him walk to Tennessee, who signed him for a paltry 3 years, 15 million dollars. That's peanuts! That's nothing! And what has he done in 2 years in Tennessee? He's been good.

2016: 108 targets, 65 receptions, 945 yards, 9 touchdowns, 4 interceptions. Passer Rating: 101.0 - overall team passer rating was 93.7. When targeted, passing offense was 7.3 rating points better than team average.

2017: 68 targets, 41 receptions, 626 yards, 3 touchdowns, 4 interceptions. Passer Rating: 88.9 - overall team passer rating is 76.6. When targeted, passing offense is 12.3 rating points better than team average.


Instead of keeping players like Matthews on the roster, we have elected to trade draft picks for different receivers (Carroo and Stills) who have actually underperformed compared to the rest of our receiving group for the most part during their time in Miami. I like Kenny Stills, he's a great deep ball specialist, but it is inexcusable to have burned four draft picks plus a big chunk of cap space on a pair of receivers who aren't improving our offense by comparison to the guy who walked away for next to nothing.

So when I saw this this morning, I laughed:




Really? I get that perhaps he was not happy down here with Joe Philbin, but when he walked, Philbin had been fired. It should have been possible to work with him toward a fair contract extension. We didn't even try, because we wanted to showcase the guy we had just traded a 3rd round draft pick for, Kenny Stills.

He's certainly not the only one. We've had horrible struggles at cornerback, to the point that we had to go dredge up Byron Maxwell as a grossly overpaid starter in 2016, when we could have just tried to re-sign Nolan Carroll on a modest contract after he had shown that he was capable of being a serviceable NFL cornerback. Again, we develop players and then when they start to show that they are capable of being productive, decent players for us, we let them walk in order to blow more draft picks and money on unknown quantities or has-beens.

Jeff Ireland sucked. Dennis Hickey kind of sucked. Mike Tannenbaum...

The problem isn't Ross, the problem is the people Ross has put in charge of building the roster. They are ****ing stupid.
 
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