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Stephen Ross will go down as the single biggest villain in Dolphin history.

Bruce Beal jr is our next guy that was promised this franchise for purchase. Yet another from Ross NY tree.
 
AquaXI said:
Bruce Beal jr is our next guy that was promised this franchise for purchase. Yet another from Ross NY tree.
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Joe Robbie was not a South Florida resident when he started the process of putting a new franchise in Miami. Yet he moved to South Florida so he could be involved with the team on a daily basis and by living in South Florida he always knew the happenings on the team and how the fans in the community were responding to the team.

Ross flies in on his private plane from New York to watch the game and then heads back to New York right after the game is over. His priority is and always has been his real estate empire in New York. Owning a football for people like Ross has more to do with showing their wealth than it is about actually caring about the community the team plays in.

I really don’t care that he spent millions of dollars to upgrade the stadium. I think we all know that was all about him being able to have Super Bowls in his stadium and other events like the National football
Championship game than it was about the comfort of the fans.

Ross spending large cash amounts on free agents or player salaries is totally irrelevant if he can’t hire the right people to judge who the best free agents are or the best players in the draft to improve the talent on the roster. In this respect, he has been awful.
 
If Ross ok's a deal, that includes, Three 1st round picks and perhaps more? For Watson or any player, for that matter, with unresolved legal and potentially criminal issues outstanding; should be the biggest villain in all of Dolphins land. I'm so disgusted by all these rumors and by Stephen Ross perhaps setting the franchise back for quite awhile, by rolling the dice on Watson. Its not about his talent, its everything else. When will Ross ever learn. Please someone gift this man a box of Q-Tips for Christmas.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Benny, you, uh, you don't know who Joe Robbie was?

Wow.

Joe Robbie was a great, interesting man. The stadium should still bear his name.
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But then Dumbo wouldn’t be able to cash in on hard rock. Everything this guy has done has been about money. Everything!
 
BillsFanInPeace said:
I am sorry. I don’t get the Ross Hate.

From my eyes the things I would want from an owner are.

Are my facilities top end?
Is he/she spending?
Does the ownership group meddle?

I get the hate against the Hires. He got some Hires wrong. That happens. He doesn’t seem to me make rash personnel decisions either. Sometimes finding the right GM/HC is as much about luck just like a QB.
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He got EVERY SINGLE hire wrong. All teams spend. Maybe he meddles, maybe he doesn't. There seem to be indications that he does.
 
Joe Robbie took the Dolphins from an expansion team to one of the league's iconic franchises and a two-time Super Bowl champion. He also privately financed the stadium in Miami Gardens. Legend.

Wayne Huizenga's main blind spot was that he was a name whore and that caused him to spend poorly on free agents, but the Dolphins were generally competitive while he was owner (8 playoff appearances in 15 seasons) and he was a South Florida guy who genuinely cared about winning. His most egregious offense was selling the team to Stephen Ross.

Stephen Ross knows nothing about running a sports organization and shows no ability to learn. He created and prided himself on a nonsensical and dysfunctional football operation structure for his first decade as owner -- the GM doesn't pick the coach, the drafter has no say on final roster, dispersed power with all combatants reporting directly to him, etc. He picks bad football people to advise him -- Carl Peterson, Bill Parcells, Mike Tannenbaum, etc. He tried and failed to get public financing of the last round of stadium renovations because he made a total botch of his interactions with the Florida Legislature and Miami-Dade commissioners. His top priority in recent years appears to be redeveloping the stadium parking lots for F1 and a tennis tournament. This is his 13th season as owner, during which the team will have posted two winning seasons and gotten smashed in its only playoff game. And he's about to mortgage the next half-decade on a quarterback facing 22 sexual assault complaints. Stephen Ross has yet to approach Daniel Snyder-level villainy but he will still go down in history as one of the NFL's worst all-time owners.
 
emoticon said:
He got EVERY SINGLE hire wrong. All teams spend. Maybe he meddles, maybe he doesn't. There seem to be indications that he does.
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When you're creating a football operations structure where your VP of football operations, general manager, and head coach are all direct reports to you, that's meddling.
 
DolfanDaveInMI said:
Joe Robbie took the Dolphins from an expansion team to one of the league's iconic franchises and a two-time Super Bowl champion. He also privately financed the stadium in Miami Gardens. Legend.

Wayne Huizenga's main blind spot was that he was a name whore and that caused him to spend poorly on free agents, but the Dolphins were generally competitive while he was owner (8 playoff appearances in 15 seasons) and he was a South Florida guy who genuinely cared about winning. His most egregious offense was selling the team to Stephen Ross.

Stephen Ross knows nothing about running a sports organization and shows no ability to learn. He created and prided himself on a nonsensical and dysfunctional football operation structure for his first decade as owner -- the GM doesn't pick the coach, the drafter has no say on final roster, dispersed power with all combatants reporting directly to him, etc. He picks bad football people to advise him -- Carl Peterson, Bill Parcells, Mike Tannenbaum, etc. He tried and failed to get public financing of the last round of stadium renovations because he made a total botch of his interactions with the Florida Legislature and Miami-Dade commissioners. His top priority in recent years appears to be redeveloping the stadium parking lots for F1 and a tennis tournament. This is his 13th season as owner, during which the team will have posted two winning seasons and gotten smashed in its only playoff game. And he's about to mortgage the next half-decade on a quarterback facing 22 sexual assault complaints. Stephen Ross has yet to approach Daniel Snyder-level villainy but he will still go down in history as one of the NFL's worst all-time owners.
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the most frustrating part is that he absolutely shows no ability to learn from his mistakes
 
DolfanDaveInMI said:
Joe Robbie took the Dolphins from an expansion team to one of the league's iconic franchises and a two-time Super Bowl champion. He also privately financed the stadium in Miami Gardens. Legend.

Wayne Huizenga's main blind spot was that he was a name whore and that caused him to spend poorly on free agents, but the Dolphins were generally competitive while he was owner (8 playoff appearances in 15 seasons) and he was a South Florida guy who genuinely cared about winning. His most egregious offense was selling the team to Stephen Ross.

Stephen Ross knows nothing about running a sports organization and shows no ability to learn. He created and prided himself on a nonsensical and dysfunctional football operation structure for his first decade as owner -- the GM doesn't pick the coach, the drafter has no say on final roster, dispersed power with all combatants reporting directly to him, etc. He picks bad football people to advise him -- Carl Peterson, Bill Parcells, Mike Tannenbaum, etc. He tried and failed to get public financing of the last round of stadium renovations because he made a total botch of his interactions with the Florida Legislature and Miami-Dade commissioners. His top priority in recent years appears to be redeveloping the stadium parking lots for F1 and a tennis tournament. This is his 13th season as owner, during which the team will have posted two winning seasons and gotten smashed in its only playoff game. And he's about to mortgage the next half-decade on a quarterback facing 22 sexual assault complaints. Stephen Ross has yet to approach Daniel Snyder-level villainy but he will still go down in history as one of the NFL's worst all-time owners.
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I would upvote this a thousand times if I could.
 
DolfanDaveInMI said:
Joe Robbie took the Dolphins from an expansion team to one of the league's iconic franchises and a two-time Super Bowl champion. He also privately financed the stadium in Miami Gardens. Legend.

Wayne Huizenga's main blind spot was that he was a name whore and that caused him to spend poorly on free agents, but the Dolphins were generally competitive while he was owner (8 playoff appearances in 15 seasons) and he was a South Florida guy who genuinely cared about winning. His most egregious offense was selling the team to Stephen Ross.

Stephen Ross knows nothing about running a sports organization and shows no ability to learn. He created and prided himself on a nonsensical and dysfunctional football operation structure for his first decade as owner -- the GM doesn't pick the coach, the drafter has no say on final roster, dispersed power with all combatants reporting directly to him, etc. He picks bad football people to advise him -- Carl Peterson, Bill Parcells, Mike Tannenbaum, etc. He tried and failed to get public financing of the last round of stadium renovations because he made a total botch of his interactions with the Florida Legislature and Miami-Dade commissioners. His top priority in recent years appears to be redeveloping the stadium parking lots for F1 and a tennis tournament. This is his 13th season as owner, during which the team will have posted two winning seasons and gotten smashed in its only playoff game. And he's about to mortgage the next half-decade on a quarterback facing 22 sexual assault complaints. Stephen Ross has yet to approach Daniel Snyder-level villainy but he will still go down in history as one of the NFL's worst all-time owners.
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Post of the year.
 
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