I'm not to sure that the word moderation was in his vocabulary though.Originally posted by CirclingWagons
but not for a prolonged period of time: Lyle Alzado
Originally posted by Scrappy
I think that in moderation, and under a doctor's supervision, it can be relatively safe. Keyword: relatively
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
Jeff Zgonina is juiced for sure.
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
but not for a prolonged period of time: Lyle Alzado
Originally posted by minus
Human Growth is the prefer steriods use by atheletes since is harder to detect.
Originally posted by Cranx
While I'm not denying that steroid use is prevalent within the NFL (at least relative to the population at large) I'd have to say it's a bit premature as well as immature to name specific players and accuse them without having even the slightest shred of evidence. The last time I checked, this was still the U.S. and the term "innocent until proven guilty" still applied (unless of course you're a foreign terrorist suspect, then your just sent to rot in Cuba.)
As someone who has done multidisciplinary-physical training since about 1992 and has taken formal (i.e. collegiate) courses on exercise physiology and nutrition, I can assure you that, in certain people, extraordinary, and often enormous, physiques can occur with proper nutrition and exercise. While steroids provide a boost there are legal (although somewhat more rigorous) ways of achieving virtually identical gains to those achieved through the use of steroids.
In future, unless you have concrete evidence to the contrary, it would be advisable to keep your opinions as to specific player’s steroid use out of the discussion; it's simply classless.
Originally posted by Scrappy
That's why I posted this: "We also have to take into account that pro football teams have doctors, trainers,top-of-the line exercise equipment, and probably even nuritionists to ensure they get maximal gains in their training.These are things that have advanced over the years, so I wouldn't point to their physical improvements as totally a result of drugs."
It's pretty safe to say Alzado used them. Actually, it's a well known fact.
Originally posted by knoxpk
nice to see soem replies!Cranx I agree there are ways to get bigger and stronger w/out them but its hard for me to see soem kid coming out of college and putting on 30lbs of muscle in one summer. worse yet, coming out of High school and putting on 30llbs. of muscle in one summer.
I see quite a few kids getting picked up by major U's projected to play D-line weighing in the range of 230lbs. By the time they hit the field a year or 2 later they are a solid 250-270lbs!
the key words you used are: i"n certain people, extraordinary, and often enormous, physiques can occur with proper nutrition and exercise"
I doubt that 80 kids on one college roster fit that bill yet walk into a locker room of these same schools and you see hercules like builds all over!
Originally posted by knoxpk
Oh let me get this out of the way, btw let me know your opinion.
I think that steroids are OK IF a doctor is administering it!
C'mon a stripper on south beach can get implants, a fat boy can get his stomach stapled, Mikey jackson can have his nose cut off and skin bleached but a 30 something guy cant get test injected by a Doctor twice a month for cosmetic reasons?
Keep the replies comin'.