Rowdy1972
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Do SEC WRs from the last 15 years. Its like a 70% hit rate.
T.O. said freshman Tua reminded him of Steve Young
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It’s crazy how some people can’t grasp this concept
juniorseau55
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They are call draft steals. We can find our guy outside the 1st round.
Great post but based on this list alone even Devante parker wasn't worth the pick. Just about almost every receiver you listed as 50/50. We would have to create another thread to look at what player would have been a better option for those teams but hindsight is 20/20.
I used the all pro as a ceiling level so by those standards alone out of 77 picks spanning two decades the success rate is very low. These are just numbers at the end of the day that end up just picturing a story. Great teams develop talent. The pre draft hype is toxic. This is a passing league and if we don't have the right players or coaching personnel we are going to flop.
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I made a post a few days ago of the best WR's in league right now and the majority of them were not 1st round picks. The value of the WR position is just not great especially with a top 5 pick or even a top 10 pick. I view WR's as being easily replaced, similar to the RB position but I think their is greater chance of finding a good WR than RB because the position is deeper. just look how many WR's were drafted last year and how well most of them played. Point is, I feel like we can (or should be able) to draft a good WR in any draft class, Steelers draft great WR's outside the 1st all the time.
Ideally, when drafting in the top 5, the positions with the most value are QB, Edge Rusher, and OT.
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I think Tua will flourish right here with a solid training camp, new OC, his regular season game experience, having seen the Jets, Buffalo and New England and having gone through game planning, installing the offense and film study, to come out an experienced 23 year old guy ready to direct our offense. He has the quick release, accuracy and ability to read and react. He needs weapons and he will be a force. He is more accurate than Josh Allen, and I believe will be a better quarterback very quickly.
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What if they cant move from 3. They can want to trade all they want but they might just be stuck. Your Right about Ginn he never did much here. What about J.Long and Tunsil great LTs on loosing team. I'd roll the dice on someone who can put up points. Thank I'm not the GM
juniorseau55
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We need someone like him for sure.
juniorseau55
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I mean let's be honest honest here bebo. Putting a winning team requires a lot of resources, and people that do a good job at it. As much as Jordan once said that everything starts with the players, he was actually wrong. It took a GM, and a good Coach to build the Bulls. It was their job to bring the best players to win championships. While Krause ended up ruining the Bulls later, he was also one of the main reasons why they won 6 rings with him. He was the one that hand pick Jackson to succeed. He brought in Pippen, and on the 2nd run he brought in Rodman. All the players you mentioned were pieces to win, but they weren't enough. Even Grier right now seems like someone we should replace if he doesn't do the job he is suppose to do.What if they cant move from 3. They can want to trade all they want but they might just be stuck. Your Right about Ginn he never did much here. What about J.Long and Tunsil great LTs on loosing team. I'd roll the dice on someone who can put up points. Thank I'm not the GM
Not even close to an accurate assessment. And that’s not an opinion.
Tua had to deal with a below average OL. He had no running game and the worst WR Corp in the NFL. Yet because he wasn’t able to have a great half season with this ragtag offense, people are already considering him a bust and they want to trade away the future for a QB that was 4-12 because that team lacked talent.
Young was considered a bust in Tampa but went on to be a SB winning QB with the 49ers and eventually a member of the HOF. I have no idea if Tua will have a similar type career but I also have zero interest in seeing him traded to another team while trading away a ton of future draft picks for Watson.
Young was considered a bust in Tampa but went on to be a SB winning QB with the 49ers and eventually a member of the HOF. I have no idea if Tua will have a similar type career but I also have zero interest in seeing him traded to another team while trading away a ton of future draft picks for Watson.
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You can probably be confident Smith won't fail due to off field \ character issues. Smith was also captain of that WR unit which included Jeudy and Ruggs in his junior year. The only concern is with his weight but that's another debate.
juniorseau55
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I see what you are doing there. All the Alabama fans would get hard like concrete just for the possibility of us taking Waddle and Smith in the same round lol. If we somehow take a hard pass on Smith, and somehow Waddle slips to 18 why not? It would be interesting to see Waddle have a superior career in future retrospect.
Do you watch college football at all? Serious question...
Because I've never ever heard someone describe Smith's game as "he's just fast".
You can be skeptical of his size and how that will transition to NFL but saying the guy is successful simply because of his "speed" is just an inaccurate statement.
If anything, that was probably Smith' 2nd biggest concern with some people, other than his size, is that he doesn't have that elite speed..
So you should really pull up some of his highlights and look and how he creates separation and gets open...it's not even close to being all speed.