The Gary Kubiak Offense: concepts and analysis
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Gibbs is 72 and in semi-retirement. He "consults" for the Broncos but that's it. Besides, he was never a pro OC. I'm glad someone else realized how much an awesome **** kicker he is, though.
The 'WCO' is easier to defend than what the Steelers were doing a few years ago, before Haley.
The concept of a rigid system like 'WCO' seems limiting. You just need something that really allows you to adapt.
Miami's personnel groupings last year really handcuffed them last year, especially at TE. The lack of an all-purpose TE certainly dictated to the D what they were gonna do.
The concept of a rigid system like 'WCO' seems limiting. You just need something that really allows you to adapt.
Miami's personnel groupings last year really handcuffed them last year, especially at TE. The lack of an all-purpose TE certainly dictated to the D what they were gonna do.
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Informative post. Thanks for the read. I do have 2 follow up questions. When you say Miami's current wide receiver core does not fit Kubiak's philosophies, what do you mean specifically? As far as I can tell, our WRs already run routes in a West Coast system, and they proved themselves capable downfield blockers.
My second question regards your concerns about the flexibility of Kubiak's offense at the line of scrimmage. Would you say this lack of flexibility accounted for the decline in Matt Schaub's play or were his problems more attributed to execution?
I addressed that a few posts back. :)
The inflexibility contributed heavily to at least one interception. Schaub wasn't allowed to audible even though he knew the play was busted and ended up throwing a pick six. Doesn't excuse him from throwing the ball but it's troubling any time that a quarterback as experienced as Schaub isn't allowed to audible. It's somewhat unclear just how often Schuab was allowed to audible or not, though.
To be honest I don't know what to make of the Texans' struggles on offense this year. The whole thing just sort of fell apart. Can't place it on any one thing.
I just don't see how Kubiak is remotely realistic. He's a year removed from being HC of a Super Bowl contender. He has major health concerns. He's accomplished enough in this league as an offensive mind to get any OC job he wants and he's going to choose to come be the Dolphins OC with a potential lame duck Philbin? I just don't see it. It's not realistic unless we hurl buckets of money at him and then he'll just be here to get paid.
Great thread!
The biggest concern that I have is the OL. McKinnie cannot block under that system. Neither can Jerry. McKinnie was a joke at backside run blocking. No way does he put himself on the ground every play on the back side. We need 4 new linemen unless one or more of the backups can block that system.
The biggest concern that I have is the OL. McKinnie cannot block under that system. Neither can Jerry. McKinnie was a joke at backside run blocking. No way does he put himself on the ground every play on the back side. We need 4 new linemen unless one or more of the backups can block that system.
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neither can clabo...miami needs 2 new tackles for this system
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When Sparano was fired, this is what I wanted. Instead, Ross hires Philbin who didn't like anything the team did well because it didn't fit his system. Miami had the 3rd ranked rushing defense, but Philbin, Coyle, and Ireland turned it into the 24th ranked rushing defense. IMO, this alone is why Ross should have cleaned house.
Agreed. They would probably need 2 new guards as well. Jerry can't play the system and Brenner might not be good enough for any system.
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brenners athletic enough...really other than when he got exposed when they thought he could handle kyle williams of buffalo by himself he wasn't too bad...and he moves well...just needs to get some more lead in the pencil and anchor better and work on technique...
definitely worth bringing to camp next year...him and yeatman both would fit the new system
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Great article, but I'm glad we didn't hire Kubiak. I think his offense is best suited for the 1800s, not modern football. And honestly, I don't think Tannehill needs to be protected (and limited) by the scheme. He just needs protection, period.
For what it's worth, Bill Lazor was trained in the West Coast offense and runs some of the same inside/outside zone concepts that Kubiak does. I can't speak to the frequency of his use of the bootleg, but the part of the article dealing with the outside zone is still relevant to this hire.