Why do you think Tua is treated differently?
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Joe Dolfan
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Sooo... this is to point out that you've cleverly noticed that people were lukewarm about Tua before, and they're warming up to him as he improves? Genius
Crazy, right? They would still hate on the same people if they weren’t warming up to Tua. There’s no winning.
Partly b/c people are poor evaluators. They think that arm strength and size matters more than accuracy and anticipation. Then there's the tendency to give the QB too much credit or blame. For example, it was pretty obvious that Miami ran a quick throw offense b/c their pass pro was historically bad. But instead of going with the obvious they say it was about a lack of arm strength to justify their earlier assumption. It was obviously fictional b/c anybody who'd watched Tua in college knew he was very good at throwing long. But that didn't stop the narrative. People would say it's different b/c it was college (now you're hearing some of the same people use the "but it's practice" narrative). There are differences between college and pros, but if a person can throw long it doesn't matter the level.
And for the record, I could care less about the media opinions or the the people on this board that make inaccurate criticisms about Tua. I'm not one who will keep track. I just believe they lack an understanding of football. For the most part I ignore them. And near as I can tell (since I don't really keep track), I thought most of them were idiots long before I ever heard of Tua.
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Not only the media. This very forum has a contingency of tua haters. I have been on both sides and flip flopped numerous times depending on the game. Right now i am loving me some Tua unless he regresses. It does seem like the media has an agenda, but dolphin fans just want to win so we are very irrational when we start taking L,s. We are fanatics after all and if he plays like crap , well you already know the pitch forks are coming out
You made this same point in the Colin Cowherd thread and I wrote a long post explaining why people are frustrated with CC and you didn’t respond, now you’re here making the same points again.
Sigh.
What exactly has any media type been wrong about at this point?
Oh, I don’t know. How about CC saying Jacoby Brisset is better than Tua?
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This is literally the dumbest sh*t I’ve ever read lol
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lol of course. I guess we should ignore the amount of insults the 'realists' threw out. The condescending arrogance has been abundant. Excuse us for wanting to point that **** out.
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Isn't that what this thread is all about?
that first part of your post describes Mac Jones 2021 perfectly
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Well it's one thing for some media that aren't high on Tua. But there's quite a bit who think Tua would never be good or is limited or constantly just feel they see all what Tua is. Yet ignorant of his serious injury, worst o line, no rbs, back up wrs or just waddle and back ups. It's one thing to feel that's all there is for Tua if he played last two seasons was an o line that actually looked like an nfl o line. a coach that was just decent for tua, fairly good rbs and good wr group. Then I get it as far as thinking that's as good as Tua is and will be. Some were making conclusions into the future and ignoring everything out. I mean look how many that didn't think Tua had a decent arm, some felt his was below average or limited. Just so much crap. Oh tua is not athletic I've seen some say, yet he's quite quick and has a knack of making defenders look silly from being juked out in the open field. Not a lot of qbs other than the obvious athletic ones, have that agility. We finally actually get to see what Tua can do with a team finally around him. Something that's important for most young qbs
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Which is interesting because they don't say talent around is the only reason Burrow and Herbert have been successful. Both are great qbs, but we can't deny both guys came into Teams that had quite the wr talent and pretty darn good rbs. Yes Burrow didn't have a good o line, but I also noticed Burrow would hold onto the ball a bit too. But Chase Higgins and Boyd that trio is just about better than every wr group in the league plus the tightend and mixon is a very good back. Herbert came in as a rookie with Allen and Mike Williams and good rbs. Tua rookie season had a horrible o line, **** rbs and parker who missed of the year and basically no 4 wrs as the starters ha while not even fully healed from his hip injury plus an unsupportive coach
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My opinion is that the media took advantage of the self inflicted drama of our team (Flores BS, Herbert ballin his first season, Tua injury (he couldn't throw with much velocity his first 2 seasons while the hip healed), inserting Tua to replace Fitz, etc.) in order to get ratings/clicks. Sadly, in todays world, its more about controversy in order to get followers than true reality.
Now the pendulum is swinging the other direction. We have a new coach, Tua has weapons, Tua's hip is better and he has velocity on his throws. And Flores is at this very moment serving doughnuts and coffee to Mike Tomlin in Pittsburg, while secretly planning to take over the Steelers. Remember he stated he was called by God to coach.
We will have a much improved year and the media will be bi-polar moment to moment to moment with very little reality or consistency.
True fans will support the team passionately while accepting that it takes time for new coach, new scheme, and new players to gel.
We will make the playoffs.
Now the pendulum is swinging the other direction. We have a new coach, Tua has weapons, Tua's hip is better and he has velocity on his throws. And Flores is at this very moment serving doughnuts and coffee to Mike Tomlin in Pittsburg, while secretly planning to take over the Steelers. Remember he stated he was called by God to coach.
We will have a much improved year and the media will be bi-polar moment to moment to moment with very little reality or consistency.
True fans will support the team passionately while accepting that it takes time for new coach, new scheme, and new players to gel.
We will make the playoffs.
So, in your opinion, a player, ANY player, should get credit for being better due to being in a bad situation before they actually play better due to being in a better situation?
This is what I mean by circumstances not mattering. Im not crowning Tua or anyone for that matter until they actually do it. It’s perfectly fine if people disagree with that way of seeing things.