Finsfan1984
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Smith isn’t even a consideration in your opine?
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You are right. Hard to say.
Like I said, we are all pretend GM here.
Tagging a star player did not go over well in most cases. Talk to Landry.
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He's on a one year deal... for now.
You seemed awfully sure that he wouldn't be back, and my answer to you was that you can't know that yet. If he becomes our best receiver and he is willing to play for a reasonable amount of money, it's a possibility. If he wants a stupid amount of money, then we can drop the tag on him for a year.
The tag is not so bad... one year... no long term cap problem.
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Landry is a punk. Landry always was a punk... Lots of ego, not a whole lot of game really.
I'm glad he's gone and has become someone else's problem.
edit: waaaaay overpaid for what he brings.
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: indicates contract trigger occuring during that year)| Year | Age | Base Salary | Prorated Bonus | Roster Bonus | Per Game Roster Bonus | Workout Bonus | Guaranteed Salary | Cap Number | Cap % | Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2018 | 26 | $3,500,000 | $1,500,000 | $10,500,000 | $0 | $0 | $14,000,000 | $15,500,000 | 6.4% | |||||
| 2019 | 27 | $12,500,000 | $1,500,000 | $0 | $0 | $50,000 | $12,500,000 | $14,050,000 | 5.7% | |||||
| 2020 | 28 | $13,000,000 | $1,500,000 | $0 | $0 | $50,000 | $13,000,000 | $14,550,000 | 6.4% | |||||
| 2021 | 29 | $12,500,000 | $1,500,000 | $0 | $750,000 | $50,000 | $0 | $14,711,765 | 7.0% | $3,000,000 | $11,711,765 | |||
| 2022 | 30 | $14,300,000 | $1,500,000 | $0 | $750,000 | $50,000 | $0 | $16,600,000 | 8.2% | $1,500,000 | $15,100,000 | |||
| Total | $55,800,000 | $7,500,000 | $10,500,000 | $1,500,000 | $200,000 | $39,500,000 | $75,411,765 |
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Not saying it is either or. I feel there are pass catchers worth 6 in this draft for Mia. Really wish there was a dominant edge guy but there just isn't. To me the I have 4 guys I am looking at for 6 Pitts/Chase/Smith/Sewell maybe Waddle. I downgrade Sewell just a shade because of Miami's situation. We just took Jackson in the first last year and I am high on him kid has the feet to be a very good LT just wasn't physically ready to be a day one starter due to missing a year for bone marrow transfer. Now I don't think the line is good enough yet but I am looking at 2nd round there at Center or another T/G to fight it out with Hunt and looser kicks inside. For Oline I am a believer in 5 above average to good is better then 2 elite and 3 below average.
What punk? Yeah, he talks a lot during the game, but I have not heard anything in the locker room or in practice saying he is a bad teammate.
As for his 'problem', now we all know it had more to do with Gase than Landry.
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Landry has been in the NFL for 7 years and has scored more than 6 TDs... once.
He may be the most overrated WR in the NFL. But he causes trouble on the field and constantly whines for more looks and more money... he's the exact type of player that you do your best to get rid of.
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I'm strongly in favour of bringing in a receiver this year, but the only ones who might be worth the #6 pick are Pitts and Chase... and we already have two receivers on our roster who resemble Chase and a TE who resembles Pitts.
I would have stayed at 12. If we moved back up for Waddle or Smith, we screwed up.
My list at 6 is Pitts, Sewell, and Parsons. Big fast, talented men with no holes in the game.
If we gave up an extra one to take stickman or a slot receiver? Hoo boy...
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Not taking Parsons at 6. And it is just not the locker room stuff. He is my Clowney of this draft pure physical talent always leaving you wanting more. Would roll the dice at 18.
Now I would take Smith at 6. While yes he is very light and that is an outlier for sure. But his film is also an outlier. And it wasn't just the great stats his film looks like a man playing against boys. (Yes I know usually you think he is just bigger stronger faster with that saying) But that us what his film is like. It is just ridiculous how often Smith is open and I mean 3+ yards open and against all types of coverage. It is just very hard to find a comparison for Smith. You just look at him and think Jesus how is he doing this he he not some physical freak yet he makes guys look bad. His natural football IQ and feel for the WR position may be the best I have seen coming out of college. Just watch how often he gets a DB turned the wrong way with just little effortless moves. I guess we will see how it all translates to the NFL but IMO Smith has a high floor (because of his +NFL level routes and feel for the WR position which is often underrated people like big and fast) he may not gave the highest ceiling as some but I feel has a higher chance of reaching.
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A couple of things on Smith...
He really didn't look great before this last year. I believe that he greatly benefitted from a couple of things... being a older senior and playing on a totally stacked team.
I think his lack of weight and power will greatly hinder him when he starts playing against the men, instead of the boys.
My take on Smith is that he'll be a nice WR2 for someone, a guy who will do most of his better work between the 20s and be much less effective in the red zone. Yes, I think he's a slot receiver in the NFL. Jarvis Landry. I don't see him as a first round pick, much less a top 10 pick.
He's my stand out pick for most overrated player in the draft.
Yes, I could be wrong... but I wouldn't take him early, there are too many reasons why non-prototypical players fail.
Over / Under 500 dongs?
Yes, only I’m starting to think Atlanta Is taking Pitts at 4....and Chase goes at 5....my thread was is coming true!
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Finally got my top 3 wide receivers down.
1) Devonte
2) Waddle
3 Chase.
It’s close but ultimately Devonte’s hi level skill as a receiver plus the intangibles push him to the top.
I know he’s gonna work hard, I knows he’s a highly skilled position specific athlete, I knows he’s humble, I know he has hi level competitive drive, I know there are no injury concerns.
I saw this play tonite that blew me away..it was so hard to see but I rewinded it several times because I thought I saw him do it but needed to see it again to confirm.
He left his feet for a pass, pass was behind and high, so he contorted his body and made the catch..
Good play right? Well, he did that while looking away at a defender who was coming from behind and calculated where he was going to plant and turn upfield, before his feet hit the ground..
It was the unbelievable consistency of this dude, the perfect hands of a receiver, The intellect to master his craft, and that burst of speed I saw at the pro day on certain reps..
Him and Tua cane in together..Him and Tua won a national championship together, let’s reunite someone who gets off the line and separates better than anyone in the draft..
1) Devonte
2) Waddle
3 Chase.
It’s close but ultimately Devonte’s hi level skill as a receiver plus the intangibles push him to the top.
I know he’s gonna work hard, I knows he’s a highly skilled position specific athlete, I knows he’s humble, I know he has hi level competitive drive, I know there are no injury concerns.
I saw this play tonite that blew me away..it was so hard to see but I rewinded it several times because I thought I saw him do it but needed to see it again to confirm.
He left his feet for a pass, pass was behind and high, so he contorted his body and made the catch..
Good play right? Well, he did that while looking away at a defender who was coming from behind and calculated where he was going to plant and turn upfield, before his feet hit the ground..
It was the unbelievable consistency of this dude, the perfect hands of a receiver, The intellect to master his craft, and that burst of speed I saw at the pro day on certain reps..
Him and Tua cane in together..Him and Tua won a national championship together, let’s reunite someone who gets off the line and separates better than anyone in the draft..