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Trade these four players and eliminate their cap hits:

Daunte Culpepper....................6.9 million
LJ Shelton..............................2.9 million
Marty Booker...........................3.7 million
Renaldo Hill..............................2.0 million

Total....................................15.5 million

Our cap situation would be OK the rest of this year and would be real good next offseason.

I beleive Hagan is ready to replace Booker and I support drafting Ginn after trading down. Booker's age is a factor.

I think obtaining Trent Green is an improvement over Daunte.

I think we can do just as well with Toledo or by drafting Grubbs,Sears,Blaylock,Free,Ugoh,Satele as we have with Shelton. He is 31.

I like Hill but I think we can draft a playmaker or two in this years draft.
Very high on Michael Griffin,John Wendling,Rouse and Piscetelli,even Dahl.

Should we keep the players or take a pick or two and save the money for other possibilities and/or the future benefits??
 
Elliott 1 said:
Trade these four players and eliminate their cap hits:

Daunte Culpepper....................6.9 million
LJ Shelton..............................2.9 million
Marty Booker...........................3.7 million
Renaldo Hill..............................2.0 million

Total....................................15.5 million

Our cap situation would be OK the rest of this year and would be real good next offseason.

I beleive Hagan is ready to replace Booker and I support drafting Ginn after trading down. Booker's age is a factor.

I think obtaining Trent Green is an improvement over Daunte.

I think we can do just as well with Toledo or by drafting Grubbs,Sears,Blaylock,Free,Ugoh,Satele as we have with Shelton. He is 31.

I like Hill but I think we can draft a playmaker or two in this years draft.
Very high on Michael Griffin,John Wendling,Rouse and Piscetelli,even Dahl.

Should we keep the players or take a pick or two and save the money for other possibilities and/or the future benefits??
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Daunte Culpepper....................6.9 million - I hope he is traded for a pick before he is cut.

LJ Shelton..............................2.9 million - Can't shake up both sides of the line, it will not be good for which ever QB we have back there. Plus, I believe he is an above average guard.

Marty Booker...........................3.7 million - Hagan is way to unproven to let Marty go.


Renaldo Hill..............................2.0 million - The man is solid and makes plays. We can live with 2 mil because his production last year warranted it.
 
I think Marty Booker earned his keep well last year and I love that he is back again this year. I think Booker is a better reciever and overall athlete than Hagan based on what I see each do last season and regardless of age.
I hope Hagan makes great improvements this year and putting Chambers in the slot more often, with all 3 on the field
 
Elliott 1 said:
Trade these four players and eliminate their cap hits:

Daunte Culpepper....................6.9 million
LJ Shelton..............................2.9 million
Marty Booker...........................3.7 million
Renaldo Hill..............................2.0 million

Total....................................15.5 million

Our cap situation would be OK the rest of this year and would be real good next offseason.

I beleive Hagan is ready to replace Booker and I support drafting Ginn after trading down. Booker's age is a factor.

I think obtaining Trent Green is an improvement over Daunte.

I think we can do just as well with Toledo or by drafting Grubbs,Sears,Blaylock,Free,Ugoh,Satele as we have with Shelton. He is 31.

I like Hill but I think we can draft a playmaker or two in this years draft.
Very high on Michael Griffin,John Wendling,Rouse and Piscetelli,even Dahl.

Should we keep the players or take a pick or two and save the money for other possibilities and/or the future benefits??
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Cpep - that would just leave us with lemon and vick as our qbs, not a smart idea at the moment

Sheldon - Did pretty good when moved over to the right side.and you can only do so much house cleaning at a time. he might end up being our starting left tackle and if not, we have already cut like half our oline and the right ones imo have been cut for the moment so removing him would be bad as well

Booker - Hegan still has to prove he can keep it up before i rely on him. He can on strong at the end of last season, but i want to see consistency, not a spurt

Hill - maybe maybe not our secondary isnt the strongest, but he isnt the strongest either
 
I agree with all the points made about these players value to the team, but I'd still rather have the draft picks and the cap space next offseason. If we do some of these things like pick up Green and make a couple more trades of aging players we can be in a great position next offseason to see the Dolphins return to powerhouse stature in the NFL.

I could live with this years uncertainty to have 40 million in cap available next offseason.
 
Elliott 1 said:
Trade these four players and eliminate their cap hits:

Daunte Culpepper....................6.9 million
LJ Shelton..............................2.9 million
Marty Booker...........................3.7 million
Renaldo Hill..............................2.0 million

Total....................................15.5 million

Our cap situation would be OK the rest of this year and would be real good next offseason.

I beleive Hagan is ready to replace Booker and I support drafting Ginn after trading down. Booker's age is a factor.

I think obtaining Trent Green is an improvement over Daunte.

I think we can do just as well with Toledo or by drafting Grubbs,Sears,Blaylock,Free,Ugoh,Satele as we have with Shelton. He is 31.

I like Hill but I think we can draft a playmaker or two in this years draft.
Very high on Michael Griffin,John Wendling,Rouse and Piscetelli,even Dahl.

Should we keep the players or take a pick or two and save the money for other possibilities and/or the future benefits??
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Although it's nice to gain cap space, Mueller says right now we have plenty. I think the bigger issue is what picks could we get for them in return, as I don't believe there would be that much interest. Right now I don't think Culpepper would draw any.:confused:
 
:sidelol: Yea lets just press the A button a few times and its done.

3 of those guys are untradeable. Why would you want to trade Booker???? Culpepper will be impossible to trade unless you send him on a boat full of working girls and hope Al Davis takes Viagra. Someone mentioned if we trade him that leaves us with Lemon and Vick.....well...keeping him leaves us with Lemon and Vick. Relax and Trent Green and a rookie tbnl will be here by May. LJ Shelton I dont believe is tradeable and he turned out to be a decent RG anyway. We kinda need him. Hill I doubt would get any interest. I dont care for him much but, who else are we gonna play at safety?
 
I like the idea of making some more trades because it would save money and we could aquire some good picks in a deep draft which would allow us to be more mobile and flexible in the draft allowing us to have some control over the draft instead of the draft controlling us. Players I would be willing to trade: Daunte Culpepper, Marty Booker, Chris Chambers,Ricky Williams. I think any of these players would bring decent picks,and it would be an oppurtune time for us to get younger and get value for our veterans at the same time. If we wait to long that window of oppurtunity closes.
 
Are you the kind of guy who starts a franchise in Madden and trades every player on roster for youth and draft picks? If so, by year 2 of your franchise is your cap penalty so high that you cant sign anybody?

Do you consider cap ramifications?
 
Did anybody actually see Trent Green play last year? He was awful!!! Dear god, why would anybody think he is still capable of playing at a high level?

There is no point in trading Renaldo Hill, he was our best secondary player last year, he stays where he is until someone beats him out.

I don't know why we'd get rid of Booker, he was productive last year and we are worse off with a second or third round rookie replacing him.

Shelton played well when he was put at guard and if he stays the right side of our line will be about the only constant we have had.

Culpepper is making a lot of money, and if he doesn't look healthy by June 1st he will be cut, I don't think anybody would trade for him with that contract. He wants to play for Miami so I see no reason he wont restructure his contract to remain here.

The only player I would be willing to trade is Chris Chambers. I'd like to look at the possibility of getting a late first for him, maybe the Chargers would be interested.
 
umpalu said:
Cpep - that would just leave us with lemon and vick as our qbs, not a smart idea at the moment

Sheldon - Did pretty good when moved over to the right side.and you can only do so much house cleaning at a time. he might end up being our starting left tackle and if not, we have already cut like half our oline and the right ones imo have been cut for the moment so removing him would be bad as well

Booker - Hegan still has to prove he can keep it up before i rely on him. He can on strong at the end of last season, but i want to see consistency, not a spurt

Hill - maybe maybe not our secondary isnt the strongest, but he isnt the strongest either
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My day is never complete until I see umpalu's avatar.

I hope Hagan could finally take over for Booker. I have high hopes for Hagan.
 
WVdolphan said:
:sidelol: Yea lets just press the A button a few times and its done.

3 of those guys are untradeable. Why would you want to trade Booker???? Culpepper will be impossible to trade unless you send him on a boat full of working girls and hope Al Davis takes Viagra. Someone mentioned if we trade him that leaves us with Lemon and Vick.....well...keeping him leaves us with Lemon and Vick. Relax and Trent Green and a rookie tbnl will be here by May. LJ Shelton I dont believe is tradeable and he turned out to be a decent RG anyway. We kinda need him. Hill I doubt would get any interest. I dont care for him much but, who else are we gonna play at safety?
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Good points. You can't trade a player if nobody else wants him, and if you cut him, you may take a serious cap hit. Moreover, you can't just trade players for draft picks or cut them without bodies to replace them, and it seems the Fins are short of bodies to replace these guys ... and I'm not even talking better bodies, just bodies.

I don't think that Culpepper could pass a physical, so his trade value is nil. I'm not sure how he passed a physical last season, frankly. I think cutting him may be too costly...

Booker is better than any WR the Fins have except for Chambers. Getting rid of a decent player just to get rid of him is even stupider than keeping somebody just because he's a big "name" or a high draft choice who doesn't produce.

Shelton is probably untradeable. He's been around the league, has worn out his welcome in two previous cities, isn't a very good tackle, and probably is too pricey for a guard who's "serviceable" at best. However, given the lack of talent on the Miami OL, there's no alternative.

The problem with Hill is the same problem with all of these guys ... before you send him packing, you have to have somebody to fill his shoes. Saying "well, we can get somebody better in the draft" sounds good, but nobody knows how the draft is going to go until it happens. Moreover, even if your team drafts a good looking safety on Day 1, that doesn't mean he's going to be ready to play at an NFL level from Opening Day. In fact, it might take him a while, maybe even a season or more, to be ready to step up.
 
you could trade Culpepper or Booker.

You can't trade Shelton or Hill because 1) the o-line is thin enough as it is, and 2) Hill was perhaps our best player in the secondary last year, so 2 million is very reasonable
 
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