Tua Tagovailoa is getting zero respect and that’s wrong
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Me too.
I want to rip him off on his second contract.
I can say unequivocally right now I am not interested in paying a top 3/4 QB contract unless someone is elite, first ballot elite.
I’d like to win a SB with a good QB and a GREAT team. And then I want to win a SB with a different QB on a rookie contract.
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The following message is "In My Opinion" (IMO)
Tua has "proven" next to nothing in the NFL.
This ain't college no more. Injury is long gone.
Stop blaming the supporting cast. The lunar cycle etc.
No more excuses. No more mythic wannabe BS super hero hype.
Produce! Or get the fock out of town!
Have a nice day!
BNF
>>> JK. Kid probably needs another 3-5 seasons to get settled in along with 3 WRs who can separate by 5+ yards.
Add a dominate OL + run game (stud RB) and the kid might look pretty good!
Tua has "proven" next to nothing in the NFL.
This ain't college no more. Injury is long gone.
Stop blaming the supporting cast. The lunar cycle etc.
No more excuses. No more mythic wannabe BS super hero hype.
Produce! Or get the fock out of town!
Have a nice day!
BNF
>>> JK. Kid probably needs another 3-5 seasons to get settled in along with 3 WRs who can separate by 5+ yards.
Add a dominate OL + run game (stud RB) and the kid might look pretty good!
Well Hey if you haven’t won a SB let alone a PO game after 9 games then you Should be lit in flames
Damn kids need to also keep off my lawn
Damn kids need to also keep off my lawn
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I get none of the rook QBs had a PS. But, none of them had a devastating hip injury. How much did that hurt him? No one knows, but I'm going to speculate with little evidence. Of the needs many of us think he has (e.g., reading Ds, quicker release, rehab), I don't think his focus on getting in great physical shape should be ignored. And, yes, fans can't see his time in the film room. Not saying he's ignoring everything else, but it appears a major focus is physical.
Beyond his control is weapons and an OC who lets him play to his strengths. Not an excuse - an observation. I think fans will see a much better TT in '21. No, he didn't play up to expectations, but, like it or not, some of 'respect' has a coorelation to the O as a whole
Not arguing that. It took J Allen a couple years. However I for one haven't seen anthing so far that I would say,' Oh Yea, he is a futures top five qb in the making'.
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Lowering expections? More like "In spite of Tua, Fitzpatrick managed to have the team in a position in Week 17 to possibly make the playoffs. Then the coaching staff and Tua blew that incredible opportunity". Win that game and Tua'll get respect. Until then he is just another of a large number of Dolphins QBs over the last 20 years who couldn't win when it mattered the most.
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Respect is earned.
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Correct, but let's not confuse 'respect' with stats or exceptional play. It is possible TT has the "respect" of players/coaches who see what he's done and is doing, even if it doesn't (yet) show up in games. So, it's possible he has earned the respect of those who know him well, but not those who don't. I'm one of those who don't know him well and saw a good QB with flashes of VERY good. In '21 he needs to show the league what he has.
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Said this before but comparisons between Tua and Josh Allen as rookies is totally bogus. Allen was widely viewed as a “raw” talent lacking refinement BUT with an immense upside based on his cannon arm, superior athletics and overall size / composition. The kid was the quintessential example of a “project” and not some legit NFL ready player. It was all about the kid’s potential. Very much boom or bust.
Tua on the other hand was advertised as a far more refined QB with more developed skills and accuracy – a player with the core capabilities to come to the NFL and be productive. He was never seen as a “project.” Beyond that no one was touting Tua based on his yet to be realized upside linked to his dominant athletics like Allen.
Tua on the other hand was advertised as a far more refined QB with more developed skills and accuracy – a player with the core capabilities to come to the NFL and be productive. He was never seen as a “project.” Beyond that no one was touting Tua based on his yet to be realized upside linked to his dominant athletics like Allen.
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Absolutely. Great post. One of the best I’ve read on here in a long time.
Don’t frame this as people saying “Tua sucks and he’ll never be good.” People saying that should be, and are, easily dismissed.
This is about Dolphins fans, drunk on Kool Aid, demanding that the rest of the world see things through their own aqua-tinted glasses. Tua doesn’t suck, but he hasn’t proven a thing, and doesn’t deserve any respect except that to which he’s entitled as a man, and evidently, a high character one.
And the argument that he deserves props
for having his team in playoff contention is a) fallacious since this is a team game; and b) can only be made by someone who fell into a coma, or a rift in the space-time continuum, shortly after the kickoff of the Raiders’ game. The rest of us saw how the movie ended.
This is about Dolphins fans, drunk on Kool Aid, demanding that the rest of the world see things through their own aqua-tinted glasses. Tua doesn’t suck, but he hasn’t proven a thing, and doesn’t deserve any respect except that to which he’s entitled as a man, and evidently, a high character one.
And the argument that he deserves props
for having his team in playoff contention is a) fallacious since this is a team game; and b) can only be made by someone who fell into a coma, or a rift in the space-time continuum, shortly after the kickoff of the Raiders’ game. The rest of us saw how the movie ended.
The GOAT, Brady wanted to leave the team he had the most success with b/c the surrounding talent didn't have it. Are those excuses?
Yeah, let's compare TT to, arguably, the top QB of all time, a sure first ballot HOF, and winner of more championships than anyone in history.
Let's do that.......
Actually. the reason Brady left for Tampa is because he wanted to do what Peyton did, win a Super Bowl with a second team. They just wrote an article about that:
Peyton Vs Tom