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Agree. I recall RW's height was allegedly an issue prior to that draft. I thought it was malarkey.... Wisconsin has an OL as big as most NFL lines
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Agree. I recall RW's height was allegedly an issue prior to that draft. I thought it was malarkey.... Wisconsin has an OL as big as most NFL lines
I was more concerned about his ability to take hits than his height - it turned out I was wrong on that he has been more than durable
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Your betting on scheme more than you are qb anyways with mcdaniel unless his offense features qb process. Then you are betting on tua.
Even an elevated drew Brees won’t be enough though. Other players have to make leaps to offset.
There’s a reason drew Brees road record and results in the playoffs were always a let down. Lack of controlled physical environments that a home dome provides.
Trips to Buffalo in all or nothing games in January eegads
Even an elevated drew Brees won’t be enough though. Other players have to make leaps to offset.
There’s a reason drew Brees road record and results in the playoffs were always a let down. Lack of controlled physical environments that a home dome provides.
Trips to Buffalo in all or nothing games in January eegads
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This is absolutely throw stuff at the wall and hope people believe it. Bree's last 4 years (which would be his weak arm years) passer rates.
Dome. Outside
100.9. 121.2
119.7. 116.2
129.0. 99.0
103.2. 104.3
This has been debunked many times about Bree's over the years. People would claim that Bree's completion % was aided by playing in a dome. But Bree's splits between dome vs outside are pretty much identical to top QB home vs away splits. QBs/teams tend to play better at home teams win more at home. Bree's was just fing good. Did the dome help a little for some stats? Sure but it was very very minimal. People just assumed Bree's small guy, not a big arm he must struggle in bad conditions. Yep he struggles pretty much the same rate as Brady, Manning, ect.
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Debunk the road playoff success Sherlock. Cause that was the point all along. You’d think the January reference with trips to Buffalo would spell it out for ya. Although I will say miamis facing a much tougher elements road road to the playoffs and super bowl than brees and the saints ever did.
That saints team won one super bowl. It underachieved under drew Brees frankly in the postseason.
Have you checked the GOAT's road playoffs success? Or Aaron Rodgers? Or Russ? Or Peyton Manning? What outlier do you have in mind here that plays like a god on the road in the playoffs?
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Lol I don’t do outliers that’s for folks who have tunnel vision but since you asked Aaron Rodgers playoff failures are all his own, Russ hasn’t had playoff success period since that all timer half decade defense and top 5 run game left the building. Brady on the road I don’t know it doesn’t seem like they played mucb on the road to ever really judge. Peyton Manning is the most valid one here.
Keep in mind that tuas road play in elements of any kind have been to date trash. I keep hoping he comes to camp looking more Russ Wilson physically than 10 year old boy. Minus the 4.57 speed of course which post hip tuas probably on his best day a 4.9 guy
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To answer your last question that’s just the path (you call it outlier I guess) that miamis facing for the next decade in the postseason. That is assuming we even get there of course
Both Rodgers and Brady played 11 road playoffs games... Brady had 7 games under an 85 rating while Rodgers had 3... Brees is 2 out of 5, not much diff here...
Every single great QB in the past 2 decades have not done well on the road in the playoffs... You're grasping at straws here.
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You know me well enough to know that numbers in a vacuum aren’t gonna drive anything for me over my own experience but I will say that the brady number is surprising if accurate considering how he’s the all time best pocket read progression qb in nfl history. But then again peytons process was elite stuff also and id venture to say his game physically didn’t always translate on the road I’m tbe postseason. Leading me more towards not controlled environments. I don’t much care about Rodgers all that dudes done is choke on it home or away when it matters most and blame literally everyone but himself
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Yeah of course I am. Same straws I was grasping at last year when I told y’all that Josh allen is a decade long plus problem that Miami has to have personnel offsets for. And you all laughed at when I said micah parsons was the closest thing to an offset the league has.
Maybe if tua showed he could play a little more in those elements settings Id have a little more faith. To date like I said it’s been utter trash. Brees and tua are very similar and have similar limitations physically that Brees largely overcame with his process and tua to date hasn’t shown any of. Of course we haven’t let that aspect of things feature either.
Don’t worry in a year when/if it doesn’t go well Miami will trade for fools gold Lamar jackson or mr bad body language himself kyler Murray and folks here can circle jerk each other about how the positions fixed for the long haul.
Don’t put it past chris grier
Buffalo in January is a whole lot more to deal with elements wise than your average road setting. Tuas to date arm and physical limitations that setting bad combo
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I’ll leave ya with this some of y’all are old enough to remember that decade long run of Buffalo waxings in the postseason or when anything was on the line in terms of the postseason we suffered thru about 20 or so years ago. Feels like the 90s I try to block that part out but anyways…
You are headed down that exact same decade long plus path right now if you don’t get more offsets and I’m not talking about just an elevated tua physical and overall play level. That place is setting up to be miamis 2020s kryptonite.
You are headed down that exact same decade long plus path right now if you don’t get more offsets and I’m not talking about just an elevated tua physical and overall play level. That place is setting up to be miamis 2020s kryptonite.
I agree with Micah Parsons. I was banging my table for him too as JA kryptonite - it was a miss Grier missed
Waddle is not as good as Parsons for me
Parsons should have been the target IMO
But Tua has not been put in any position to meet any of the expectations. With or without Waddle the FO and Flo did not do enough for Tua - it has been a shiat show for Tua
No question like Montana before him and John Elway - Tua needs a run game this was also the mantra when he was drafted - the FO ignored it
Tua needs a run game for the reg and particularly the post season when Mia heads North so did Brady nothing new here and I kno you already understand
While Tru Buff is set up to be disruptive in the Post season - they are running out of time unless something changes within their post season scheme - JA is going the direction of Cam Newton
I don’t kno about you but I saw RB singletary at 190 lbs soaking wet lead blocking for JA in the post season last season
So yes Buff has a post season run game Until JA gets hurt and he will just a matter of time. IMHO they are crazy to play Russian roulette with their QB.
No QB runs more straight up than JA in my recent memory he also runs with a seeming disrespect for the defender. (And he has never learned to secure the football as a ball carrier but that is another topic for another day)
I mean they can only run their QB into the Teeth of the D for so long until someone takes a late rip on the QB for 15 or one or two defenders go very low - this is how the physically outmatched even the playing field
When he gets blown up I expect the league will set out to impose new rules - rules will be put in place to protect the QB
As you know currently the Qb decides when to make himself a runner at some point he is open to be submarined in the knees it is what it is
Lamar got his bumps last year it impacted their season it is just a matter of time
JA is more Newton than Tua is Newton
We don’t want Newton
We want a Run game with the odd QB scramble to keep the D off balance
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That’s your best bet with Josh allen. Pray for injury due to the usage and amount of contact they let him play to.
Outside of that status quo personnel wise be it qb and the defense and even adding a tyreek hill they still got ya by the short hairs cause when you go up there and that wind primary and freezing temps etc. is everywhere and you relying on a quick passing game predicated on timing and ball placement primary and hiding a qbs physical limitations with the run game…well your second best bet is to pray that that run game is hurting them.
Probably still won’t be enough offset for Josh allen in the end though. And if you can’t run the ball playing with these small skill guys they are gonna bludgeon ya.