What I believe you’re missing here is that both Miami AND Tua can benefit by reworking and extending the contract.
Also, if we’re honoring contracts here - you believe Miami should pay Tyreek Hill $56,000,000 in 2026?
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What I believe you’re missing here is that both Miami AND Tua can benefit by reworking and extending the contract.
Also, if we’re honoring contracts here - you believe Miami should pay Tyreek Hill $56,000,000 in 2026?
Nothing to do with Tua, but don't conflate the way a contract is structured by the team for cap manipulation purposes, and what the actual contract agrees/guarantees to the player.
Teams, agents and players are all well aware that many times those backend numbers are not guaranteed, not likely to be realized, and only there to facilitate spreading or deferring the cap hit.
If you don't like the rules, that's fine but don't misrepresent what the details of contracts actually say.
I'll say it again. Teams always honor the actual terms of the contract. If they didn't, the NFLPA would be so far up their rectum their eyes would pop out.
Right. Attacked the idiotic post, not you personally.
8-10 million. lol. You sure you’re not an opposing AFC East fan?
Of course, and it was based on his premise, not mine. (Also, Tyreek already got $11m+ of that 2026 number, so it's a moot point.) His premise was that contracts should be honored as they're written; in other words, (unless I'm mistaken), Tua should just play for $23mm in 2024. My point is that rewriting the contract, if both parties agree, can be beneficial to both sides.
Much like Hill's contract - reworking it would give Miami flexibility moving forward while giving Hill more guaranteed money after 2024.
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Your point is how and why other teams justify over paying for a QB, but that does not mean the Dolphins must make the same mistake.
If by "flexibility", you mean the ability to push yet more money down the road, ending up with more dead money then sure.
I'm not a fan of overdoing that, though.
Yes, the cap rises, so it can be advantageous to a point as far as percentage of cap. Beyond that point, though, it becomes very detrimental and unsustainable, IMO.
Now, if one is of the mindset of "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead, all in for one season", that's fine but then realize there are future ramifications.
I'm not talking about Tua specifically, though it it does seem a poor justification in that case, more as an overall philosophy.
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I don't pretend to have the faintest clue why a deal is not yet done. I do, however, hate that it isn't done yet. I am concerned that the longer it takes, the more sour Tua gets on the team to a certain extent. He was "zesty" about the topic in his minicamp interviews early last month. As time goes on, I'm sure that doesn't improve. Anyone who cites the "it's business not personal" concept here, clearly is out of their depth. Tua is taking it personally. Pay him the money that makes him feel like he's the future and leader of the team. He's not going to sign until that happens and the longer it takes the more chance for morale issues to pop up and potentially impact what is on paper, our most promising season in decades.
No, but it does mean if they want to be competitive in the market they do.
Economics 101.
Supply and demand drives prices in a capitalist system. To ignore that premise is burying one's head in the sand.
Is a new Chevy Silverado truly worth $80,000?
Not IMO, but if I want one, that's the price.
I can only assume the team is not as high on Tua's value, or have other concerns, as you.
Are they afraid of another concussion? Do they want to limit guaranteed money to 3 yrs?
IDK either, but there's evidently a divide somewhere and if I'm the GM, I have to worry about the longer term interests of the team, not Tua's feelz.
I do understand fan's frustration. I don't think I want the GM operating on the same emotions and passion as a fan.
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You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Dolphins (and other teams) have options other than signing their existing QB for more money and years.
Please understand that the "market" includes inventory of dozens and dozens of QB's, from rookies to veterans.
The reason they're this expensive is the lack of "inventory" in the first place... There are dozens and dozens of backup quality starters, but there's about 10 dudes who have proven they can win in this league, you want 1 of them, you have to pay the price.
Spitballing a few potential reasons they don't want to resign Tua right now...
-Medical concerns obviously, and would probably be the public excuse, if the Dolphins gave a reason, why it's stalling.
-Tua's play against teams with wining records
-Tuas play in acclimate weather.
-Tuas lack of playmaking when plays breakdown.
-Ross has never really wanted Tua, he wanted Burrow and now Ross is stalling bc Tua was never his guy and Ross is getting VERY old, wants "his" guy, ect.
-Tua or his agent are holding things up bc their demands are unreasonable. For example; he's demanding to be the highest paid QB in the league.
Any others you can think of?
I can go either way on the ignore Tua's feelings portion of your response. To me, I think it's a hybrid move. Grier has worked hard to assemble this roster which is our best since the 90s. It's a potential championship roster. However, without Tua, it means little. The goal of the team is to win a SB and to also make sure you are able to be competitive enough next season to go win one then too.
Tua should not take a below market deal. Grier and co are the ones that let the market grow without giving Tua a deal. They could have had this done last season and he'd be far cheaper. Or, they can wait until another deals get done, and find him to be even more expensive.
No. I think you have listed the entire contents of the "I have way too much time on my hands let me make shįt up speculation wise" notes.
Ross's "wondering eye" wonders where you get this shįt from....
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