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Vickerson's ACL strained, not torn

No need to argue ppl.

No one is giving medical advice, just discriptions of injuries.

FWIW: I know some Physical Therapists that are way more knowlegeable about the body than some doctors.

Mind explaining how exactly a knee becomes dislocated? I had always thought the petalla floated free of connection (bone anyway). So does this imply ligaments or cartalidge were torn, for the knee to become dislocated?

As far as the dislocated knee... (not to be confused with dislocated patella)

it is a very serious injury. It does not specifically "only" involve the patella, but involves all of the bones that make up the knee joint... coming out of alignment. These types of injuries are almost always due to trauma. Hitting the knee, hyper extention of the knee and even twisting of the body while the feet are fixed.
And yes, a significant amount of the connective tissue (including ligments) tear and stretch for this to happen. If the dislocation is significant, it can even affect blood flow to the lower leg, resulting in losing the affected extremity. (not good)

Anyway... Lets all hope the V-man gets better soon.
 
FiN.in.RI said:
is your hallux rigid, P4E?

I'm sorry to hear that if it is. :goof:
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Well, ummm... yeah.:( It's been rigid and throbbing for a long time now, and I can't seem to get any relief. I put a lot of strain on it when I was younger, -- I just didn't grasp how all that overuse, extreme extension and excessive weight-bearing on it could lead to so much pain.:( :( :(

Thanks so much for your concern, Fin. It's nice to know that your thoughts are with me.:lol:
 
"It's been rigid and throbbing for a long time now, and I can't seem to get any relief. I put a lot of strain on it when I was younger"

lol. P4E

Are you getting enough blood flow to your rigid and throbbing Hallux?!?!:rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3:
 
painnotpleasure said:
Well, that's definitely really great news to hear that it was just a strained ACL and not a tear but it's still a big loss and hope he can come back soon. What are the odds of us putting him on the PUP list and if we do, does his salary (not that it's much) count against the CAP? Just curious.
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He is not eligible for PUP. To be so, he would have had to been placed there right before the beginning of camp and remained there since then. KV's only realistic options are active roster until healthy and IR.
 
jlfin said:
Sounds like you are reading this from a book. You shouldn't try to give medical advice without the proper education and training and experience.
It's considerably more complex than that and it requires a more detailed history.
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actully mr jlfin. I am a medical professional -- i gave him stats that are exactly as a medical professional would give them.... :yell:
 
P4E said:
Well, ummm... yeah.:( It's been rigid and throbbing for a long time now, and I can't seem to get any relief. I put a lot of strain on it when I was younger, -- I just didn't grasp how all that overuse, extreme extension and excessive weight-bearing on it could lead to so much pain.:( :( :(

Thanks so much for your concern, Fin. It's nice to know that your thoughts are with me.:lol:
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Hey no problem, I know how long and hard it takes halluxes heal.. The best advice I can give you is to stop putting weight on it.. The more you use the hallux the more rigid it becomes. Softening a rigid hallux is nearly impossible but there is a procedure to cure the rigity. It usually involves a long sigmoidoscopy followed by freezing and amputating the hallux itself! :eek:

My thoughts are always with you P4E, always. :)
 
P4E said:
Well, ummm... yeah.:( It's been rigid and throbbing for a long time now, and I can't seem to get any relief. I put a lot of strain on it when I was younger, -- I just didn't grasp how all that overuse, extreme extension and excessive weight-bearing on it could lead to so much pain.:( :( :(

Thanks so much for your concern, Fin. It's nice to know that your thoughts are with me.:lol:
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hallux issues usually become issues due to excessive pronation in the foot leading to falling arches and big toe issues. My concern is that your lower leg muscles are not strong enough to or maybe not flexible enough to allow your foot the proper amount of rotation in your gait. You should have someone assess your footwear and your entire phase of walking to determine if you need arch supports or maybe some exercises or stretches to help with the foot and returning your toe to normal.
 
FinFanGirl said:
hallux issues usually become issues due to excessive pronation in the foot leading to falling arches and big toe issues. My concern is that your lower leg muscles are not strong enough to or maybe not flexible enough to allow your foot the proper amount of rotation in your gait. You should have someone assess your footwear and your entire phase of walking to determine if you need arch supports or maybe some exercises or stretches to help with the foot and returning your toe to normal.
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Good stuff!:) You're on the right track about how the problem developed. Geometry and motion played a huge role because I happen to have, like, the longest toes in the world. I should have been checked out by a podia when I was a kid, cuz the length of the hallux and the absence of best-suited footwear dictated that the upward-bending motion was exaggerated -- to the point where the bursa broke down and the joint became damaged. I now have an arthritic, boney mass of calcification.

Probably gonna need surgery eventually, but options like fusion or removal don't hold much appeal.:(
 
That must have been a bad sprain to get him on the IR. I wonder if Saban is doing this to make the big push next year. He will have a year of conditioning for Wright and Vickerson.
 
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