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What Are The Dolphins Cheerleaders Worth?

You all keep talking about how easily replaced these girls are because they show up in truck loads to try out. Well a number of young people show up by the truck loads and apply to work at mcdonalds, so those kids don't deserve a livable wage, because the kid behind them will just step in and do it. Equal pay for equal work isn't a horrible idea. Ecspecially when we live in a country where wemon are paid 30% less in wages for the same jobs performed by men. We are not talking about struggling business here. We all ready know players salaries are paid by the sell of tv rights. The nfl has profit sharing which keeps the small market team competitive in the market. What is wrong with the cheerleaders getting a portion of the profitts owners get from ticket sales and concessions.
If it wasn't fpr outside partys having a say in wage payment those of us who live in eastern kentucky would still be colonized into coal camps.
 
You all keep talking about how easily replaced these girls are because they show up in truck loads to try out. Well a number of young people show up by the truck loads and apply to work at mcdonalds, so those kids don't deserve a livable wage, because the kid behind them will just step in and do it. Equal pay for equal work isn't a horrible idea. Ecspecially when we live in a country where wemon are paid 30% less in wages for the same jobs performed by men. We are not talking about struggling business here. We all ready know players salaries are paid by the sell of tv rights. The nfl has profit sharing which keeps the small market team competitive in the market. What is wrong with the cheerleaders getting a portion of the profitts owners get from ticket sales and concessions.
If it wasn't fpr outside partys having a say in wage payment those of us who live in eastern kentucky would still be colonized into coal camps.

I don't know how you can be surprised. There's a mindset that coddles owners and corporations in every battle. We're supposed to hand them exemptions and tax breaks and otherwise happily applaud as they take care of us. After all, they made the country great, even when they were designing cars with defects that they knew would result in death, factoring in the price per lawsuit beforehand. Unsafe at any speed but don't forget to get out of our way as we trample you.

I lost my belief in corporations not long after I moved to Las Vegas. It's remarkable how many conventions are held there, and how many business owners end up drunk in the sportsbooks. I've heard one tale after another of deceit and abuse. One guy bragged that he was always tipped off when his inventory was going to be checked by government regulators. It was a trucking company. So he always moved his troubled rigs not far away across state lines before the inspection, then moved them back after receiving a clean bill. He laughed like heck. Countless other stories. Another guy bragged that he supported his sports betting habit by filing bogus insurance claims every year. He ran an amusement park company. It was a simple matter of ordering left turn parts for a right turn ride. Or at least that's what he would officially claim. It was worth $250,000, plenty to fund his gambling habit. That guy laughed like heck also.

I saw it in person when I worked at the Horseshoe sportsbook. We faced a strike in early 1990 that involved culinary workers and other union employees. The sportsbook was not involved. Regardless, it was disgraceful. Jack Binion blatantly lied about our operating practices, both to the media and to the union representatives. One day he actually ranted in the sportsbook office and conceded he was going to lie. He assumed everybody was strictly on his side. There was one intimidation factor after another as the strike approached, and during its tenure. Security guards who normally operated near the sportsbook were suddenly gone, tasked to threaten the striking workers. This article details some of the abuses but hardly all of them: http://articles.latimes.com/1990-04-05/news/mn-1031_1_unfair-labor

A popular major at USC during my era was SPIN, or Sports Information. Students who wanted to work for sports teams or college athletic departments took that major. I didn't major in SPIN but I took two classes as electives. Many of my friends who majored in SPIN later got jobs with big professional teams. Mostly baseball. Consequently I learned many things in confidence. One repeated theme was that the bottom line was always far greater than what was being reported in the media, or offered in the official books. Lots of creative bookkeeping, with huge profit assigned to side businesses that were actually run by the team itself. Eye popping, to say the least. I remember a 4 hour description one night in Glendale while visiting my old college buddy. Even though it was 20 years later I wasn't surprised about the Marlins revelations at all. Just the opposite. I'm convinced it applies to franchises in other sports.

Anyway, decades ago this topic came up, that pro cheerleaders were receiving paltry salaries. The Dallas Cowboys virtually bragged about it dating to the late '70s when their cheerleaders became a big deal nationally. I never understood how it didn't receive scrutiny and fair upgrades almost immediately. Then I remembered that the NFL doesn't do anything until forced. That draft series on NFL Network a few months ago had some great examples, the paltry salaries in dictator fashion unless a competing league were operating, like the AFL, WFL or USFL.

And one benefit of being around for so many decades is I remember the shift from the teenage Dolphin Dolls to the mature Starbrites directed by June Taylor. There were problems from the outset. Stan Major on WINZ loudly ripped the first squad for containing too many "dogs" who were going to embarrass the city. He claimed he could have spent one day at the beach or any local college campus and put together a far more attractive squad. It became a high profile local debate. Then during that first season there were persistent reports that the cheerleaders were complaining of how they were being treated. I remember Channel 4 ran several related reports but Channel 7 stayed away from them. Keep in mind that Channel 7 was the local NBC affiliate in those days, and NBC had the contract for the AFC and therefore the vast majority of Dolphin games.

Here's a link to a related article on problems from that first season. As always, so many years later you don't get the full version relying on old newspaper clippings now available in the archives. This is only a small segment of the complaints I remember: http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...4kvAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ni4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=2937,1044371
 
It seems ironic that the NFL owners are nearly all billionaires and can afford to pay Roger Goodell $44M last year, but the cheerleaders are paid so poorly. Some teams like the NY Giants don't even have cheerleaders because former owner, Wellington Mara thought they detracted from the game. The ongoing embarassment of the Raider cheerleaders fighting just for minimum wage of $9/hour is a disgrace to the NFL. I know that they are not direct team employees but it seems wrong that some of the crumbs can't be shared to provide the girls an adequate salary.
The Dolphin Cheerleaders are about the best in the NFL. Sometimes I wish more of our players had their passion. Yes, I enjoyed the music videos of recent seasons. We should be proud of the Miami Dolphins cheerleaders. I think that they deserve decent compensation. They put in the effort.
If some teams like Oakland and Buffalo are too mean to help out the girls by providing more, then they should copy the Giants and eliminate them. Either do it properly or not at all.
 
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Simple solution for all of this: No more cheerleaders. Being a cheerleader is like interning. If you don't want to make the equivalent of $3/hour, then go do something more productive and let someone else pick up the pom-poms.

Suing over this and using the government to force someone to pay them is a scum move.
 
what the F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the nfl has got to step in. this is a ****ing disgrace. they should be earning good money
 
I don't know how you can be surprised. There's a mindset that coddles owners and corporations in every battle. We're supposed to hand them exemptions and tax breaks and otherwise happily applaud as they take care of us. After all, they made the country great, even when they were designing cars with defects that they knew would result in death, factoring in the price per lawsuit beforehand. Unsafe at any speed but don't forget to get out of our way as we trample you.

I lost my belief in corporations not long after I moved to Las Vegas. It's remarkable how many conventions are held there, and how many business owners end up drunk in the sportsbooks. I've heard one tale after another of deceit and abuse. One guy bragged that he was always tipped off when his inventory was going to be checked by government regulators. It was a trucking company. So he always moved his troubled rigs not far away across state lines before the inspection, then moved them back after receiving a clean bill. He laughed like heck. Countless other stories. Another guy bragged that he supported his sports betting habit by filing bogus insurance claims every year. He ran an amusement park company. It was a simple matter of ordering left turn parts for a right turn ride. Or at least that's what he would officially claim. It was worth $250,000, plenty to fund his gambling habit. That guy laughed like heck also.

I saw it in person when I worked at the Horseshoe sportsbook. We faced a strike in early 1990 that involved culinary workers and other union employees. The sportsbook was not involved. Regardless, it was disgraceful. Jack Binion blatantly lied about our operating practices, both to the media and to the union representatives. One day he actually ranted in the sportsbook office and conceded he was going to lie. He assumed everybody was strictly on his side. There was one intimidation factor after another as the strike approached, and during its tenure. Security guards who normally operated near the sportsbook were suddenly gone, tasked to threaten the striking workers. This article details some of the abuses but hardly all of them: http://articles.latimes.com/1990-04-05/news/mn-1031_1_unfair-labor

A popular major at USC during my era was SPIN, or Sports Information. Students who wanted to work for sports teams or college athletic departments took that major. I didn't major in SPIN but I took two classes as electives. Many of my friends who majored in SPIN later got jobs with big professional teams. Mostly baseball. Consequently I learned many things in confidence. One repeated theme was that the bottom line was always far greater than what was being reported in the media, or offered in the official books. Lots of creative bookkeeping, with huge profit assigned to side businesses that were actually run by the team itself. Eye popping, to say the least. I remember a 4 hour description one night in Glendale while visiting my old college buddy. Even though it was 20 years later I wasn't surprised about the Marlins revelations at all. Just the opposite. I'm convinced it applies to franchises in other sports.

Anyway, decades ago this topic came up, that pro cheerleaders were receiving paltry salaries. The Dallas Cowboys virtually bragged about it dating to the late '70s when their cheerleaders became a big deal nationally. I never understood how it didn't receive scrutiny and fair upgrades almost immediately. Then I remembered that the NFL doesn't do anything until forced. That draft series on NFL Network a few months ago had some great examples, the paltry salaries in dictator fashion unless a competing league were operating, like the AFL, WFL or USFL.

And one benefit of being around for so many decades is I remember the shift from the teenage Dolphin Dolls to the mature Starbrites directed by June Taylor. There were problems from the outset. Stan Major on WINZ loudly ripped the first squad for containing too many "dogs" who were going to embarrass the city. He claimed he could have spent one day at the beach or any local college campus and put together a far more attractive squad. It became a high profile local debate. Then during that first season there were persistent reports that the cheerleaders were complaining of how they were being treated. I remember Channel 4 ran several related reports but Channel 7 stayed away from them. Keep in mind that Channel 7 was the local NBC affiliate in those days, and NBC had the contract for the AFC and therefore the vast majority of Dolphin games.

Here's a link to a related article on problems from that first season. As always, so many years later you don't get the full version relying on old newspaper clippings now available in the archives. This is only a small segment of the complaints I remember: http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...4kvAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ni4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=2937,1044371

Pretty broad statement there.....there are tons of different types of corporations, and tons of different people who run them. That would be like me trying to generalize the crowd who hangs at the sports books....there are fundamental laws of fair market capitalism here that dictate what those girls are getting paid. Unfortunately, the whole concept of a minimum wage is in part a big cause for their suffering, but that's a whole different argument.

If these girls want to make more $$ they should form a union. That's how these battles are fought and won these days. It's sad.
 
what the F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the nfl has got to step in. this is a ****ing disgrace. they should be earning good money
Then pay em. If you want someone to make more money then pay them out of your pocket, not out of someone elses. You want em making more money step up and prove it.
 
If you have to buy a suit for your job to represent your company, should your company pay for that suit? I mean, they require yo to look professional...



There are plenty of companies that pay a clothing allowance for their employees, I have worked for 2 different employers in 2 unrrelated jobs that paid me a clothing allowance! So yes, there is a certain prescedence for this, so stop it already with the BLANKET statements.
 
There are plenty of companies that pay a clothing allowance for their employees, I have worked for 2 different employers in 2 unrrelated jobs that paid me a clothing allowance! So yes, there is a certain prescedence for this, so stop it already with the BLANKET statements.

If they gave you a "clothing allowance" then it is taxable INCOME to you unless that allowance is for a mandatory work uniform that serves no purpose for you outside of work. And for the record, very few American companies do that because of the tax implications.

Source: a CPA
 
What the hell difference does that make at all? The point is, that those employees get reimbersed for their appearance, or for what money they have spent for their REQUIRED appearance for that job.

I am not saying or implying that cheerleaders SHOULD be paid more. We could argue that and all of us would never agree! All I am saying is that $125/home game equates to roughly $1K/regular season. I can guarantee you they spend well over that just in their appearances for the season, and NOT to mention their time! If you or I spent more for our work expenses than what we took home, then we would stay at the house and not work at all. I am sure that most if not all work somewhere else, or go to school or whatever, and that being a cheerleader is a status thing or something extra that they wish to do, I get it and I understand that if that is their desire. However, for us to emply they are compensated monetarily for their time and effort is a joke. I think they should be paid a bit more, but that is MY opinion. I would have thought they would make 500/1K per game, but I was wrong.
 
I happen to work alongside a KC Chiefs cheerleader. This very topic came up and the question of pay/compensation was asked of her. She basically said that if she did it for the money then she wouldn't do it at all. She makes decent money at her job with me but also works as a waitress at a national restraunt chain just to keep up with the high cost of ongoing dance classes and other necessities of maintaining her cheerleader position.

Yes, they are underpaid.
 
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