What If?? Dolphins Vs Cowboys In Sb 27

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  1. Finner89

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    Let's say Miami beats Buffalo in the 92 AFC title game. Do you think there was a good chance (50/50) that the Dolphins beat Dallas in SB 27? Or, would they have been trounced like Buffalo was?

    Always like playing the "What if" game.
     
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    I remember listening to WIP in Philly the week before the Championship games. Jody McDonald. McDonald was a Cowboys fan, and he loved the potential Cowboys/Bills matchup, but specifically said, “I want no part of Marino and the Dolphins; I think they can beat the Cowboys.”
     
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    I want to know if Marino and Co would have beaten the Chicago Bears a second time in 1985.
     
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    Likely? No. Chance? Sure.
     
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    That was the heart of the NFC physical domination of the Super Bowl. I loved it because it was earned and made so darn much sense.
     
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    Not a chance. We got handled by the Bills, who were destroyed by the Boys.
     
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    "Hey, if 'ifs and buts' were beer and nuts, we'd have a hell of a party." - Charles Barkley '89

    I remember reading in SI that Marino was pissed nobody could get open that game.
     
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    Dallas was too good that year. It was the following year they were human again and beatable.
     
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    Hey look... those were excellent Buffalo teams loaded with hall of fame talent... very deep.

    And they got blown away by Dallas!

    Any given Sunday... and there is always the Marino factor... but my money would have been on Dallas.
     
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    Dallas would have won but it would have been a closer game.
     
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    History tells us that Marino would not lose a second Super Bowl...
     
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    This was the one that would have given Marino a ring, IMHO.

    Yes, the Bears were dominant that year … the key being "that year." Why? Because Buddy Ryan instituted a new type of defense that nobody knew how to stop, the overload defense. It has become a staple component of many defenses since then, including his sons Rob Ryan in Tampa and Rex Ryan in New York, Baltimore and Buffalo. But also, Mike Nolan in San Francisco and Miami. Essentially, you put so many pass rushers in one small area that the offense cannot possibly block them all, and like a jailbreak or a blitz, you scheme to get one guy unblocked to the QB, wrecking the play. It's hard to defend.

    But the Dolphins ate the Bears for lunch. Why? First of all because there is no QB in the history of the NFL as good as Dan Marino at quickly analyzing the entire field of open receivers, flicking the ball out of his hands precisely on-target at the last second, and he was also very good at buying time and avoiding the rush. So, that pressure couldn't shut him down like it could most defenses. Also, Shula had built a team around Marino, so all of our TE's and RB's were good pass protectors who could pick up the most threatening of these overload blitzes. And, our entire OL was built to stop the pass rush, and Marino was regularly one of the least sacked or very least sacked QB in the NFL. He nullified the one dominant feature of the 1985 Bears.

    I say the key was "that year" because the Dolphins tactics were studied in depth during the offseason, the one team that could beat the 1985 Bears was closely scrutinized, and the other teams started trying to duplicate it … and succeeded. The 1986 Bears defense was not nearly as dominant, because the Dolphins had given the league the blueprint.

    Sure, that Chicago Bears team was stacked, great talent on both sides of the ball everywhere you looked. Dominant OL and HoF RB in Walter Payton. Good QB in Jim McMahon and a top WR in Willie Gault. The aforementioned defense was stacked with guys like Richard Dent, Steve McMichael, Dan Hampton, Mike Singletary, and Wilber Marshall. It was a good team. But only in that first year when Buddy Ryan could shock the NFL with his new overload schemes was that Bears team truly dominant … that element of surprise took them from a good team to a great team. That free rusher to the QB is what dominated opposing offenses. And, that defense was completely destroyed by Dan Marino.

    Sure, the Bears love to point to one fluke play where a Marino pass deflected off of the helmet of a Bears defensive lineman, and fortunately landed in Mark Clayton's hands … that was a fluke. But they love to gloss over the fact that Dan Marino and the Miami Dolphins destroyed them, dominating the game and scoring on them at will. There was only ever going to be one winning team that day, and it was the Miami Dolphins.

    Had the Dolphins won their home playoff game against Steve Grogan and the New England Patriots in our beloved Orange Bowl, it would have been different. Rather than the Super Bowl being a showcase for one of the Chicago Bears most dominant teams ever, it would have been a shrine to the Super Bowl victory of the NFL's greatest ever QB, Dan Marino, and another piece of glory for Head Coach Don Shula, and the yet another Super Bowl victory for the Miami Dolphins.

    This whole artificial façade people want to place in front of Dan Marino's greatness to hide his production, would never have started. That Super Bowl trophy … should have been ours.
     
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    That's the game I would have loved to see. Miami matched up well with that Chicago defense. I would have also liked to see the 1974 team that lost the Sea of Hands game to the Raiders face Pittsburgh at home in the AFC title. I feel that Steelers team was beatable and Miami matched up well.
     
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    No one was beating those Cowboys teams.
     
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    Honestly, that game wasn't even as close as the final score. That first half was really something and the electricity in the air at the Orange Bowl was unbelievable.

    Could Miami have won again? Absolutely. I think a lot would come down to how Chicago adjusted to Miami's offense. Buddy Ryan was a stubborn man. I feel like he would have gone with a very similar game plan thinking there was no way the Dolphins could be as successful a second time around.

    A couple of other factors. The game would be at a neutral site and Jim McMahon would be back. I feel like the Bears offense would definitely try to run Miami into submission.

    Would have loved to see that one. A lot of fans talk about 1994 as Miami's last hurrah so to speak. That playoff loss to San Diego was one of the hardest to take. That said, I don't think the Dolphins would have beaten the 1994 49ers. Great chance against Minnesota in 1974 if Miami beats Pittsburgh at home.
     
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