I've debated with you many times over the years nychump. I guess your memory there is not as good as your dolphins-negative statistical memory, shocking. After awhile you come to realize a troll is a troll. Same **** different thread.
For all your 19,000 posts I can sum up the subject of MOST quite simply.
"The Jets are better at [insert topic][insert biased logic/statistics etc.]"
"Fins fans are homers: Here's why."
"Stop making fun of my Jets."
Did I miss anything?
Obviously not very well for me to not remember you and it's quite obvious you have a reading comprehension problem if that is what you take out of it.
Sorry but NO WAY.... Nobody other than a Jets homer would make that statement.
Bill Belichick would tell you the Jets have been better. There's not a player, coach, objective fan on the planet who would rather win the div and lose your 1st playoff game than make it as a WC team and play for the right to go the SB.
I really don't think the two teams are far apart. The biggest difference is that the Jets made plays and won the close games against teams they should have (Denver, Detroit, and Cleveland) While the Dolphins did not. (Buffalo, Detroit, Cleveland) Things could have easily gone a little different and the Jets would have been 8-8, and the Dolphins 11-5. It was the same story last year except the Jets benefited from teams letting them in the playoffs rather than them earning it.
People can say the Jets made the AFCC game 2 years in a row all you want, but I really believe that the Jets have really been lucky with facing the teams that they have, and getting crazy breaks in some of those games. I will give all the credit for the Jets beating NE, but as any Jet fan will tell a Dolphin fan, just becasue you beat a team does not mean that you are better than they are. It can just mean you match up well with them. :D
It's clearly all luck which is bound to run out, any team can make 2 title games back to back. It's just about lucky, unfortunatly Miami hasn't been lucky enough to make one in 19 years but that luck will change soon!
Beating a team on the road in the div rd is slightly more important than beating a team in the reg season, wouldn't you agree?
junc why are you so obssessed with the dolphins?
I'm mjealous of all their success, all those 2 SB titles when I wsn't alive has had a negative impact on my life.
I started posting here 7 years ago, I like the forums. I enjoy debating and I enjoy learningmore about a div rival. I don't get why some people cannot get past this?
Miami Dolphins have class JETS do NOT!!!!!!!
I think the # since 2000 is 22 arrests for Miami and 8 for the Jets and the #s since the current coaches took oiver is 7 or 8 to 1 in favor of Miami. Not to mention the washed up celeb owners, a Gm asking a potential draftee if his mother is a prostitute, Brandon Scissorhands, your owner trying to hire a new HC while you still had a coach,...
All class.
I'm only considering the teams the Jets beat in the playoffs. As you said, Cincinnati was not a good team. SD did win 13 games that year, but only two of those 13 wins came against teams with a winning record. The Jets made it past that game due to SD missing 2 fairly easy field goals (36yds, 40yds). Also, remember that crazy play where the ball bounced off Vincent Jackson's leg right into Revis' lap? That did not lead to any points for the Jets, but most likely kept some points off the board for SD.
The following year the Jets faced a banged up Colts team. They played well, but were clearly not the same team as the year before. There were not any crazy plays in that game that I can remember, unless you want to count the Colts coach calling that timeout late in the game. It was a great game, and the Jets made it out with a 1 point win. I just don't think they win that game if Indy has all their guys.
I give 100% credit to the Jets for beating NE. I really thought they had no shot to win that game, and I was pleasantly surprised that they did.

Unlike a lot of other Dolphin fans, I hate the Pats more than the Jets. The Jets matched up well, and outplayed NE. I'm just not sure if you play that game again, the result would be the same.
My main point is that I don't think the Jets make it past round 1 in 09, or 10, if they faced Baltimore (instead of Cincinnati) in round 1 like NE did, or Baltimore (instead of Indy) in 10 like KC did. The Jets are a good team, but I don't feel like they are an elite team. Just a good team that has had some good fortune in the playoffs. Maybe they can become elite, but I just don't believe because they went to 2 AFCC games in 2 years that makes them elite. We will see what happens this year. :up:
Cincy won probably the toughest division in the league and they swept both Pitt and Baltimore. To say they weren't a good team is laughable. Then in the div rd we faced the hottest team in the NFL.
Do missed FGs not count? Our K missed 2 in the title game that could have been big, at Pitt last year the fumble that made it 24-3 was very likely a forward pass and should have been ruled incomplete. There's no whining, there are good and bad breaks in every game. The good ones take advantage.
The crazy play where the ball landed in revis' lap was a spectacular play in perfect coverage by the best corner in the game.
Who cares if the Colts were banged up? did they let up when half our secondary got hurt in the title game the year before and when Shonn Greene went down? They had a chance to win, they needed one first down and couldn't get it.
The TO Caldwell called had NOTHING to do w/ the end result. All it did was allow us to run out the clock on the last play rather than spike it to kick the FG. If he doesn't call that TO there we do and on the last play instead of running off 20 secs to call TO we run it off to spike it. It made no difference.
You are reaching badly w/ all these excuses.
In '09 maybe we don't beat Baltimore, we would have beaten them in '10 and we gave Indy a better game than Bal in '09 and Pitt a better game in '10.
Yes, being the ONLY team in the NFL to make the title game the last 2 years makes a team elite.