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What IS the formula for a Super Bowl team?

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As the NFL evolves, and has evolved, the formula and "blueprint", if you will, for what makes a Super Bowl contender is somewhat baffling.

What are the strengths of a team that are considered the reason for their success as a Super Bowl contender? Besides the players, since most NFL teams that are in the top 15 have better to elite players throughout their rosters, what are the x-factors? What formula seems to be consistent, and is Miami in that conversation of contending teams that are close to that formula being complete?

Is it the front office? It's it the coaching staff? Can it be the trainers and strength and conditioning program? Is it the owner? Is it simply the luck of the draw? Is it the rules and officiating of the game evolving to benefit scoring?

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With respect to what you said about the teams having elitle players on the roster I don’t think it’s true. Besides say the bottom 5 teams, I think the rest of the teams rosters are 85% interchangeable expect for maybe a couple players. Teams don’t have 10 elite players generally. It’s usually about roughly 2 to 4 elite guys per team and the rest is roughly the same level of talent throughout the teams.

The QB position is the X factor.

I think Brady proved that an Elite QB is what it’s about. No way around it. He took pretty much the exact same 7-9 team and won a Super Bowl.

With that said, I would say it’s, 50% Elite QB play and 50% everything else combined.
 
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A top 10 QB with above average OL and RB and a top 5 WR Corp.
A top 10 special teams
A top 10 defense
A solid HC and coaching staff with an owner willing to spend money to sign the best free agents when the cap allows.
 
In the old NFL, the rules were so balanced and the league featured so much contrast, even the best quarterbacks could get stuck at low point production many times per season. Now amidst coddled offenses that no longer happens. Even if elite quarterbacks struggle early the scoreboard dependably reaches 30 or thereabouts. And that single reality changed the entire dynamic of the sport. Weaker to mediocre quarterbacks don't continue to dent the scoreboard. They get content and nervous and stall late, even if the point production was high early in the game. Consequently there are countless examples each season of a weaker team/weaker quarterback that should have won the game but did not. The Chiefs late last season received lots of press for winning so many close games. Big deal. That's the way the league is set up these days. It's damn tough to build an overall great team. But you don't really need to in the first place. Dominance at the one position is plenty enough to monopolize the won/loss record.

The chess piece moves don't interest me a heck of a lot. If you have an outlier quarterback you matter. If you have a Crowd quarterback then you'll blend into irrelevancy. That's why I wanted to take a second swing at a quarterback, given that very rare slot so high in the draft.

The Super Bowl formula is freakish quarterback and then take your chances for a decade or more. Margin for error explodes. You only have to make occasional sharp choices instead of nearly everything needing to be perfect, if you lack at quarterback.
 
A quality young QB on a rookie contract.
 
foozool13 said:
With respect to what you said about the teams having elitle players on the roster I don’t think it’s true. Besides say the bottom 5 teams, I think the rest of the teams rosters are 85% interchangeable expect for maybe a couple players. Teams don’t have 10 elite players generally. It’s usually about roughly 2 to 4 elite guys per team and the rest is roughly the same level of talent throughout the teams.

The QB position is the X factor.

I think Brady proved that an Elite QB is what it’s about. No way around it. He took pretty much the exact same 7-9 team and won a Super Bowl.

With that said, I would say it’s, 50% Elite QB play and 50% everything else combined.
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But yet that same QB pretty much sucked the year before when NE didn't have the players to help him out. He looked like he was done and his last game there was very bad. Then he came to NE and they went and got him more help. That was not the same team that went 7-9 the year before. Now I agree that he mattered but he didn't win alone.
 
Durango2020 said:
Disagree, there have been plenty of teams that make the Superbowl with mediocre QBs, some have won the Superbowl with mediocre QBs.
I think a great defense is more effective than a top 5 QB.
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There's a difference between believing it's possible to win without a top 5 QB, and understanding a top 5 QB is an overwhelming factor in winning a SuperBowl.
 
A coach that gets more out his players. Reminds me of the Bum Phillips quote about Shula "Don Shula can take his'n and beat your'n, or he can take your'n and beat his'n." I think we are already seeing some of this with coach Flo, considering what he accomplished in his first 2 season of a rebuild.
 
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