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What the Alex Smith Deal Means for Miami...

Should be a good test case for #QBWINS

Non playoff team for several years with bottom 3rd defense. If they make the playoffs next year could be a real good argument that QB does really matter. I don't see it happening. To many holes elsewhere.
 
Kirk Cousins just had a year that was identical to Ryan Tannehill's 2016.

But yet, them getting rid of him is everything you need to know about him. LOL.

The math doesn't add up on this forum, ever.
 
TeeMoney said:
Quick: you crack your glass and it is fixed, and another rock hits it and cracks it... is it cracked on two separate occasions?

Kudos to Dr. Andrews and Ryan Tannehill for that
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Here's where your understanding is lacking.

Glass cracks can't be "fixed" just like a ligament doesn't "repair itself".

If you had a cracked window, and it was repaired, then a rock hits the same spot that was previously thought to be repaired then no, it's not two separate cracks, it's one crack that was damaged further to the point of making the windshield unusable.

Stem cell therapy is not a guaranteed treatment. They took a gamble and it didn't pay off. One ligament, repaired once.
 
Smith is a big upgrade over petty Kirk Coupons. Alex plays to win, Kirk plays for stats.
 
Yessir said:
Kirk Cousins just had a year that was identical to Ryan Tannehill's 2016.

But yet, them getting rid of him is everything you need to know about him. LOL.

The math doesn't add up on this forum, ever.
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Really?

In 2016 Tannehill went 8-5 with a 7-1 run. In 2017 Cousins went 7-9 with a 3-5 run to end the season.

In that year Tannehill was either #2 or #3 most accurate deep passer, Cousins wasn't. Tannehill had the 4th best QBR from a clean pocket, Cousins didn't.

But otherwise, your analogy is spot on. :up:
 
Locke said:
Washington must be excited to start strong and fade down the stretch, culminating in a first round playoff loss for the next few years. Way better option than rolling the dice on potential elite talent on the draft.

Anytime I get frustrated being a Fins fan, it’s always nice to know that you can look at Washington and always know someone has it worse.
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How is it any different than the Dolphins starting slow only to pick up steam. The last 3 years the Redskins and Dolphins have 1 playoff appearance each and over that 3 year span are 24-23-1(Redskins) and 22-26(Dolphins). They have it worse?
 
Yessir said:
The Redskins are honestly on the level of the Browns with Snyder as an owner. The Dolphins are only a slight step above those two.

Teams get Alex Smith and his tenures run their course with his limited ability. The Redskins payed him like he's Drew Bress tho LMAO.
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Better than giving that money to a loser like Cousins. This is a great move by the Redskins, they have finally fixed their QB situation for the time being and it does not involve the most overrated, and soon to be most overpaid QB in the NFL, Cousins. Alex Smith on the other hand, is an under-rated QB who was quietly one of the best QB's in the league this year. He's taller, faster, and much smarter than Cousins with similar arm talent, this move will pay great dividends for that franchise. Washington and Miami will bounce back in 2018, and to many's surprise, it will be because of the QB play.
 
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Vaark said:
Really?

In 2016 Tannehill went 8-5 with a 7-1 run. In 2017 Cousins went 7-9 with a 3-5 run to end the season.

In that year Tannehill was either #2 or #3 most accurate deep passer, Cousins wasn't. Tannehill had the 4th best QBR from a clean pocket, Cousins didn't.

But otherwise, your analogy is spot on. :up:
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Thought wins were a team stat. But use it when you can to support your case.

Accurate deep passing means nothing without results. The defense doesn't change their plan against you because you were accurate. They change because you burned them for TD's. Until the accuracy turns into big results the 8 man boxes will continue.
 
EvilDylan said:
Here's where your understanding is lacking.

Glass cracks can't be "fixed" just like a ligament doesn't "repair itself".

If you had a cracked window, and it was repaired, then a rock hits the same spot that was previously thought to be repaired then no, it's not two separate cracks, it's one crack that was damaged further to the point of making the windshield unusable.

Stem cell therapy is not a guaranteed treatment. They took a gamble and it didn't pay off. One ligament, repaired once.
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It's not unpossible to reinjure a ligament. You do not perform these surgeries as Dr. Andrews does, and you are not privvy to the MRI's as Ryan Tannehill is so your opinion seems irrelevant to me.
 
Vaark said:
Really?

In 2016 Tannehill went 8-5 with a 7-1 run. In 2017 Cousins went 7-9 with a 3-5 run to end the season.

In that year Tannehill was either #2 or #3 most accurate deep passer, Cousins wasn't. Tannehill had the 4th best QBR from a clean pocket, Cousins didn't.

But otherwise, your analogy is spot on. :up:
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The Redskins played a CONSIDERABLY harder schedule. The collective win percentage of the Dolphins wins in 2016 with Tannehill was beyond terrible. And let's cool out on the arbitrary benchmarks. "Most accurate deep passer" "Best QBR with a clean pocket" LOL
 
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TannDaMan17 said:
Better than giving that money to a loser like Cousins. This is a great move by the Redskins, they have finally fixed their QB situation for the time being and it does not involve the most overrated, and soon to be most overpaid QB in the NFL, Cousins. Alex Smith on the other hand, is an under-rated QB who was quietly one of the best QB's in the league this year. He's taller, faster, and smarter than Cousins with similar arm talent, this move will pay great dividends for that franchise. Washington and Miami will bounce back in 2018, and to many's surprise, it will be because of the QB play.
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Why is Kirk Cousins a loser and overrated and Ryan Tannehill not? Enlighten me.

Is Tannehill more accurate? Does he have more arm talent? Is he better on 3rd down?

None of the tangible data reflect such. *shrugs*. But Cousins is a loser, and Tannehill is the second coming whom we should not be looking to replace at all (at least that's the world on here). Very very interesting.
 
Yeah those stupid benchmarks mean nothing. Was listening to Pat Kirwin talk about the Eagles feared pass rush and they only had 38 and Patriots actually had more. Eagle fan called in to crow about one of those bench marks. He said the Eagles have 40 more pressures than the closest team. Pat Kirwin remarked "A pressure to Brady is a completion"
 
I think it’s going to be between the Broncos or the Jets for Cousins, let’s not forget Nick Folk will most likely be targeted by teams as well after the SB, and even more so if the Eagles win.
 
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"When there is a complete rupture and the ligament is not functioning, the best treatment consists of surgery, including the reconstruction of a new ligament. If the patient has only experienced a partial tear, and the knee is not unstable, physical therapy and non-operative measures can often be effective."

He had stem cell treatments and rehab. Everyone familiar with the injury said it was healed 100%. I understand your disregard for their opinions because the knee was injured for a second time in the same ligament. It is quite possible that the strands that were completely torn and required surgery were different than the strands of ligament that was healed from his previous injury. If you want to continue this debate I would suggest PM so we can allow the Cousin's discussion to continue without distraction. Thanks.
 
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