Hard to classify Moore as a "journeyman" when he's only got 25 starts... or a better than .500 winning record on behalf of teams those years that won a mere 36.5% of their games. I'd be more likely to call him an "uplifter" rather than a "journeyman." And as far as us seeing his max upside? I don't get it. 12th in the league in QBR, 4th in the league in long ball accuracy going 6-6 for a team that finished 6-10 which could have as easily been 8-4 if not for some Marshall endzone butterfingers. And that's under center for a team with a turnstyle named Columbo!
As to Moore playing well in stretches, well, he did play awful post concussion for the 2-14 Panthers but still he won 50% of their games in 35% of their starts. By comparison, the next season on an upgraded team where Cam Newton and his legs were still his best weapon, Cam started the season 1-5 and then 2-10 before good stuff kicked in. What are the odds that if Cam was a late round pick or UFA, he'd never have made it to 12 starts with that record? Otherwise, every "stretch" Moore played has ranged from better than average to damn good!
Flynn put up 2 impressive games, although Moore's 09 win vs the playoff-bound Vikings was every bit as impressive if not more than Flynn's 2010 loss to NE. No question he's done more with less.
Flynn might turn out to be great and if Philbin wants him, I'm 100% behind that. But that doesn't mean I think he's any better than Moore.. or that he could have come onto our demoralized team with our fans actively rooting for them to lose, without TC reps and do as well as Moore did including winning 6 of the last 9. Flynn's showings for an offensive juggernaut were quite impressive indeed, no doubt, but still, to quote Lord Byron: "Adversity is the first path to Truth" !!
Hard to classify Moore as a "journeyman" when he's only got 25 starts... or a better than .500 winning record on behalf of teams those years that won a mere 36.5% of their games. I'd be more likely to call him an "uplifter" rather than a "journeyman." And as far as us seeing his max upside? I don't get it. 12th in the league in QBR, 4th in the league in long ball accuracy going 6-6 for a team that finished 6-10 which could have as easily been 8-4 if not for some Marshall endzone butterfingers. And that's under center for a team with a turnstyle named Columbo!
As to Moore playing well in stretches, well, he did play awful post concussion for the 2-14 Panthers but still he won 50% of their games in 35% of their starts. By comparison, the next season on an upgraded team where Cam Newton and his legs were still his best weapon, Cam started the season 1-5 and then 2-10 before good stuff kicked in. What are the odds that if Cam was a late round pick or UFA, he'd never have made it to 12 starts with that record? Otherwise, every "stretch" Moore played has ranged from better than average to damn good!
Flynn put up 2 impressive games, although Moore's 09 win vs the playoff-bound Vikings was every bit as impressive if not more than Flynn's 2010 loss to NE. No question he's done more with less.
Flynn might turn out to be great and if Philbin wants him, I'm 100% behind that. But that doesn't mean I think he's any better than Moore.. or that he could have come onto our demoralized team with our fans actively rooting for them to lose, without TC reps and do as well as Moore did including winning 6 of the last 9. Flynn's showings for an offensive juggernaut were quite impressive indeed, no doubt, but still, to quote Lord Byron: "Adversity is the first path to Truth" !!
Yeah. Matt Moore tends to put the ball all over the place on the short stuff.
