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When you have 12 WR's ....

Scary Terry is an inch taller than Parker/Williams and runs slightly faster...he could be had in the third round. That's how friggin' deep this class is.

Take 2-3 good ones, just like you did with Oline last year.
 
My take on Hurns, and to a lesser extent Wilson... is that there has never been any guarantee that they make it out of camp, but that they should make it to camp, because cutting them before the new year (June 1st) caused their cap hits to hit right now... today, and it was better to push that into the new year.

Trading them may still be the best option, because then the guaranteed part of their salary goes to the new team.

I'd take a 7 for Hurns now, and probably a 7 for Wilson after the second pre-season game.
 
Danny said:
None of them would stop me from going WR with our top pick
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Agreed. I actually listed a draft pick as one of the opening day roster spots, and I'm not going to be disappointed if it's Ja'Marr Chase at #3 ... although I'd prefer to trade back a few spots.
 
This is why they keep Williams, he's great at positioning his body to protect/block the ball from defenders, he fights for yardage, he fights for the ball in the air, he makes acrobatic catches, has a great catch radius and he's dirt cheap. He has great field awareness. If he can stay healthy and cut down on the drops, he should have a great year. He was a bit inconsistent, he'd dazzle with an acrobatic catch then follow up by dropping a 10-yard slant.
 
13marino13 said:
This is why they keep Williams, he's great at positioning his body to protect/block the ball from defenders, he fights for yardage, he fights for the ball in the air, he makes acrobatic catches, has a great catch radius and he's dirt cheap. He has great field awareness. If he can stay healthy and cut down on the drops, he should have a great year. He was a bit inconsistent, he'd dazzle with an acrobatic catch then follow up by dropping a 10-yard slant.
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I sometimes get Chris Chambers vibes from Williams. Not in the sense they're comps from a profile perspective, but because they both have a tendency to "dazzle with an acrobatic catch" then follow it up with a drop on an easy one. That said, there's no way I would move on from Williams yet if I was this FO. The kid has tons of talent and size that can't be taught. He just needs some time (hopefully) to put it all together.
 
I would wait and see if Wilson has twitch and speed back. If he does he is ideal for tua and rpo. But still I would draft wideout and pitts or two wideouts. I honestly don’t think Bowden is special. But he might improve . Wilson is a natural slot compared to Bowden.
 
Tua and Williams were starting to really get something going before Williams got hurt. That injury was a damn shame and I still wonder if Wilkins didn't injure him during the post TD celebration. I recall Wilkins jumping on him and suddenly he was limping.
 
Digital said:
As the old adage goes, when you have two starting QB's, you have no starting QB. Soooo, when you have 12 WR's ... you don't have a starting set of WR's.

Quick breakdown, and feel free to add to this as we gauge this interesting position group.

DeVante Parker: Clear-cut #1, but salary is getting high, needs to be resigned in the near future, and has a long history of injuries. Given his age and Tua's youth, he's a candidate to be replaced if we draft a WR high.

Will Fuller: One-year rental, but if he stays healthy, he's our deep threat. Makes it easy to move on from Albert Wilson, Allen Hurns, Jakeem Grant ... and anyone else whose main asset is speed.

Preston Williams: Young, cheap, big bodied WR who likely makes this roster. He can fill in for Parker and provides a big target for Tua. Seems like the best bet to stick long term.

Jakeem Grant: Love this guy, but he hasn't become a great route runner yet, his hands are still subpar, and despite truly NFL elite speed and change of direction quickness, Grant remains a special teamer and subpar WR. My guess is that his days are numbered. There's a chance he makes the team, but I'd expect he is a casualty.

Albert Wilson: Expensive and not dependable. The most important ability is availability ... and Wilson is never there. Misses a lot of games from injury and the team carried him and his salary. Then last year he skipped out because of Covid-19 fear. When you're not there, team isn't going to keep you. Thanks for the flashes Wilson, and good luck wherever you land ... but it's not going to be in Miami.

Allen Hurns: What can we say ... he has the same issues Wilson had without any production!?!?!?!?!? Buh-bye!

Malcolm Perry: Hanging on by a thread. Love the person, kinda like the player, but he's a marginal talent whose main asset is his flexibility as a gadget player and emergency QB. But alas, I expect him to be a Practice Squad guy next year, not a roster guy. Thank you for your service ... and there are many of us rooting for you!

Lynn Bowden, Jr.: This is the main reason I'm expecting us to move on from Albert Wilson, Jakeem Grant, and Malcolm Perry. Flashed some talent and has the flexibility to be our gadget guy and emergency QB. We traded for him and he seems to be realizing his talent, so I expect him to make the roster.

Kai Locksley: A big guy (6'4) who played QB but was very bad at QB at UTEP. But, he's got some athletic ability, and looks like a practice squad conversion guy. Good luck to him, but this isn't the most patient organization, so he needs to show ability quickly even on the practice squad.

Robert Foster: Former Alabama player with true speed. Intriguing, but less so now that we've added Will Fuller. Might be a Practice Squad guy to develop behind Fuller, but its going to be an uphill challenge to make this roster.

Mack Hollins: He did a decent job subbing in for Preston Williams and Parker when needed. Big target who looks a bit like a move TE playing WR, so he probably makes the team as a backup and sees less time than he did last year.

Kirk Merritt: Is he even a Dolphin? Listed on our roster on miamidolphins.com, but it's been a long time since I heard this name. Not sure if he has Practice Squad eligibility, but he's gotta hope he does, because he's not making this roster.

Isaiah Ford: OK, listed on our roster at miamidolphins.com but I'm thinking he's not a Dolphin. Regardless, the former Dolphin (Former Patriot?) would be our Baker's Dozen, and I don't think he makes our roster. Solid player, but a backup at best.

If I had to guess right now, I'd say our roster includes: DeVante Parker, Will Fuller, Preston Williams, Lynn Bowden Jr., Mack Hollins, and probably at least 1 rookie. That might leave a spot open, and I could easily be wrong, but that's how it looks to me right now.

This is a fluid situation, so I'm not even sure which of these 13 are on our roster ... and if I missed someone. Please let me know. Kindly add your thoughts. Twelve WR's ... wow.
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Sad state of affairs
 
SF Dolphin Fan said:
Good points. I wouldn't be overly surprised if Miami didn't draft a wide receiver, but definitely disappointed considering that's the strength of this draft.

Wilson, with a very manageable salary, has a chance. Probably a good chance if the Dolphins don't draft a wide receiver.
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Right now, the locks are DVP, Fuller, Williams, Wilson [til upgraded], and R1 rookie. The last 1-2 will be ST aces
 
Reading this making a case for Pitts but definitely add a higher rd pick for WR too

Parker
Fuller
Wilson
Williams
Hurns
R

Pitts
Gisecki


Hmmmmm....
 
I'm crazy high on Williams. He's big, runs well, is a Hell of a red zone target; potentially, I honestly believe that he is our best WR.

The key is 'potentially'. He has to remain healthy, and to improve his willingness to catch, before he runs. I think this is very possible... last year's injury was caused by one of two things... a very odd gator roll tackle as he was scoring, or Christian Wilkins jumping on him in the endzone... either way, this was a freak injury, bad luck, not infirmity or poor structure.

Last year, on the sideline after every drive, we saw Preston perched right next to DVP... absorbing the vet's knowledge of the game, and watching Parker work through tough times and nagging injuries. If Preston is smart enough to put what DVP has learned since his rough first couple of years, Williams can be a legitimate #1 WR.

He makes peanuts for a salary and the single dumbest thing I have ever heard on Finheaven was posters saying that we should cut him and move on. I mean... the folks who said this are just CLUELESS.
 
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