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a lot of people are saying (in other threads) any GM can look good and have a good offseason with all the money he is spending.. BUT the reason we have all this cap and pick IS because of Ireland. He has done a really good job POST-parcells
 
It was the right choice to move up,and smart not to back out when Joeckel/Fisher were gone due to the asking price.Dolphins knew the Raiders were open for offers,Miami called up and offered 12,54 Raiders said no and they hung up.Raiders called back and said 12,42 and you have a deal....the rest is history.
 
WV I wish I could thanks you twice. This forum has disintegrated into an Ireland bashfest over the past year or so, and while some could see that Parcells and Pizza boy had a lot to do with the situation we were in it is always the loudest and most obnoxious that get noticed. Not saying everything that has been done the fast year and a half will work out as planned, but it was definitely planned. The front office knew exactly what they were doing, hoping for another great night tonight
 
I've said many times this offseason the quickest way to mask problems on your defense is to make one of the units elite. This entire front seven, if Jordan for what I think he'll do, is now elite. We can scrape by with a shoddy secondary at this point although I still want to upgrade it tonight with our 2nd round pick. Smart move by Ireland Ill give him that for sure,.
 
Not gonna lie or hide it. I trashed Ireland hard. Wanted him fired. I was wrong. He has shocked me with the guts he has shown. Glad to have him on board. I was wrong plain and simple. Very shrewd offseason. Rosses insticts deserve some credit here also. Cause he coulda buckled to public sentiment.
 
WVDolphan said:
There has been plenty of Ireland hatred to go around here the last 18 months. For many, things subsided when Philbin was brought in and people wanted to fairly give Ireland a shot with a new HC.

However, many have remained skeptical of Ireland despite the new coaching staff and have questioned his every move. Some still believe what transpired over the pre-Philbin years were mostly Ireland's doings and that he held a philosophy too similar to Parcells' outdated ideas.

Some of us however have been trying to tell you guys it was a new day in Miami and that most of the harvest of recent years was due mainly to the mentality of Parcells and the ignorance of Sparano. Some of us believed Ireland was cured of Parcellsitis and even though he exhibited a few symptoms from time to time was never in a critical stage. Some of us had faith that the man in charge of this team would step out of the corn fields and find the playmakers we need to contend once again.

Those of us who just knew Parcells and Sparano were the ones in control and steering us straight to mediocrity tried to tell you Ireland haters to just step back and watch what happens. Instead you bashed away with your Fireland nonsense and sigs that include suggestions of Ireland being incompetent. Well Jeff Ireland has one message for you as you take in the fact he drafted up to get the best defensive playmaker in the draft last night................................... Stick THAT in your CORNCOB pipe and smoke it!!!!!!!!

Thats right. Jeff Ireland has been nothing short of the best GM in the league over the last couple of sesaon. I didnt say just this season. I said the last couple of seasons. Its time you Ireland bashers get it right. Dont come in softening your stance on him and suggest he is just merely doing a good job this year. No. This brilliant offseason has been an ongoing process since LAST YEAR. While all of you mongoloids were nitpicking every move Ireland made last year, you failed to realize they were all moves necessary to make this offseason work.

How good is that Vontae trade now? After all, had it not been for the extra 2nd round pick we got from trading that bum, the move up to get Jordan wouldve been a lot less likely. Or how bout the Marshall trade you all bashed Ireland for? No complaints about that now as we are putting together a solid group of WRs and have an extra 3rd this year that also proved beneficial to us. But, the best move of last year was drafting Tannehill. Many were skeptical, but look at what we would be faced with had we not gotten the QB last season.

Yea, some great work and planning ahead has put the phins in a great position. Every move that was made last season was a piece of future considerations. And the move up to get Jordan was as shrewed as any. Ireland trolled the **** out of about 4 teams that were praying Jordan would be there with their top 10 pick. What a great move at a great price. We found the right team to fleece and got it done. And just look at what some other teams gave up in order to move ahead or into round 1. Minnesota lost 4 picks just to get back into the late first and get Patterson last night. In the meantime we gave up a 2nd rounder to move up 9 spots and get the best defensive playmaker on the board.

The other great thing about last nights draft was how many teams wasted their pick by going cornfed. We got a leg up on half the league who drafted players that simply cant block the player we took and dont have much of an impact anyway. Only a couple of teams in the top 10 went playmaker. Both St Louis and Miami traded up to get theirs.

Looking at Jordan, he is pretty much the defensive version of Tavon Austin. They were mirror playmakers so to speak. The phins are clearly going to attack on defense. Wake on one side and Jordan on the other will force OTs out wide and allow Starks and Solial to destroy the middle. Ellerbe will also be a cause of concern with the occasional rush up the middle. Jordan also allows us a player who can cover these new explosive TEs down the seem. He is a perfect counter to Hernandez.

The message was sent loud and clear to New England. Belichick and Brady...... were coming for you. Be prepared. Ireland and Philbin are ON IT. This defense is going to absolutely swarm. Much more speed at LB is going to give us a great new demension. If we can add a ball hawk like Herbal Badger, we could have an elite D.

Finally, what a great job Ireland and the whole team did of not letting this cat out of the bag. None of the so called "experts" or "gurus" had a clue we were going to take Jordan. Those guys completely whiffed. This is why I find mock drafts and such silly anyway. If you want to analyze the players thats great, but speculating on who is going where is pretty much nonsense outside of the first couple of picks. Too many things can happen.

In the end this was all nothing more than great foresight and hard work by Jeff Ireland, Joe Philbin and staff over the last 15 months. This group really put together some great stuff to get us where we are. We are now laying perfectly in the weeds with our crosshairs right on Brady's ass. This team is a legit contender and those who are sleeping on that need to WAKE up and smell the coffee. Jeff Ireland is running this thing like a boss. It was Parcells and Sparano who failed to realize the impact playmakers have and overvalue the cornfed.

Now if we can just get Bailey, Herbal Badger, and Gillislee tonight we can start talking world championships.
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I love this ****, where are Parcells and Sporano now, ****ed the Fins and I worried where was the team headed but as soon as those 2 dicks were out of the way the team has been transformed in 18 months.
I couldn't be happier and love your write up.
Thanks
 
WVDolphan said:
There has been plenty of Ireland hatred to go around here the last 18 months. For many, things subsided when Philbin was brought in and people wanted to fairly give Ireland a shot with a new HC.

However, many have remained skeptical of Ireland despite the new coaching staff and have questioned his every move. Some still believe what transpired over the pre-Philbin years were mostly Ireland's doings and that he held a philosophy too similar to Parcells' outdated ideas.

Some of us however have been trying to tell you guys it was a new day in Miami and that most of the harvest of recent years was due mainly to the mentality of Parcells and the ignorance of Sparano. Some of us believed Ireland was cured of Parcellsitis and even though he exhibited a few symptoms from time to time was never in a critical stage. Some of us had faith that the man in charge of this team would step out of the corn fields and find the playmakers we need to contend once again.

Those of us who just knew Parcells and Sparano were the ones in control and steering us straight to mediocrity tried to tell you Ireland haters to just step back and watch what happens. Instead you bashed away with your Fireland nonsense and sigs that include suggestions of Ireland being incompetent. Well Jeff Ireland has one message for you as you take in the fact he drafted up to get the best defensive playmaker in the draft last night................................... Stick THAT in your CORNCOB pipe and smoke it!!!!!!!!

Thats right. Jeff Ireland has been nothing short of the best GM in the league over the last couple of sesaon. I didnt say just this season. I said the last couple of seasons. Its time you Ireland bashers get it right. Dont come in softening your stance on him and suggest he is just merely doing a good job this year. No. This brilliant offseason has been an ongoing process since LAST YEAR. While all of you mongoloids were nitpicking every move Ireland made last year, you failed to realize they were all moves necessary to make this offseason work.

How good is that Vontae trade now? After all, had it not been for the extra 2nd round pick we got from trading that bum, the move up to get Jordan wouldve been a lot less likely. Or how bout the Marshall trade you all bashed Ireland for? No complaints about that now as we are putting together a solid group of WRs and have an extra 3rd this year that also proved beneficial to us. But, the best move of last year was drafting Tannehill. Many were skeptical, but look at what we would be faced with had we not gotten the QB last season.

Yea, some great work and planning ahead has put the phins in a great position. Every move that was made last season was a piece of future considerations. And the move up to get Jordan was as shrewed as any. Ireland trolled the **** out of about 4 teams that were praying Jordan would be there with their top 10 pick. What a great move at a great price. We found the right team to fleece and got it done. And just look at what some other teams gave up in order to move ahead or into round 1. Minnesota lost 4 picks just to get back into the late first and get Patterson last night. In the meantime we gave up a 2nd rounder to move up 9 spots and get the best defensive playmaker on the board.

The other great thing about last nights draft was how many teams wasted their pick by going cornfed. We got a leg up on half the league who drafted players that simply cant block the player we took and dont have much of an impact anyway. Only a couple of teams in the top 10 went playmaker. Both St Louis and Miami traded up to get theirs.

Looking at Jordan, he is pretty much the defensive version of Tavon Austin. They were mirror playmakers so to speak. The phins are clearly going to attack on defense. Wake on one side and Jordan on the other will force OTs out wide and allow Starks and Solial to destroy the middle. Ellerbe will also be a cause of concern with the occasional rush up the middle. Jordan also allows us a player who can cover these new explosive TEs down the seem. He is a perfect counter to Hernandez.

The message was sent loud and clear to New England. Belichick and Brady...... were coming for you. Be prepared. Ireland and Philbin are ON IT. This defense is going to absolutely swarm. Much more speed at LB is going to give us a great new demension. If we can add a ball hawk like Herbal Badger, we could have an elite D.

Finally, what a great job Ireland and the whole team did of not letting this cat out of the bag. None of the so called "experts" or "gurus" had a clue we were going to take Jordan. Those guys completely whiffed. This is why I find mock drafts and such silly anyway. If you want to analyze the players thats great, but speculating on who is going where is pretty much nonsense outside of the first couple of picks. Too many things can happen.

In the end this was all nothing more than great foresight and hard work by Jeff Ireland, Joe Philbin and staff over the last 15 months. This group really put together some great stuff to get us where we are. We are now laying perfectly in the weeds with our crosshairs right on Brady's ass. This team is a legit contender and those who are sleeping on that need to WAKE up and smell the coffee. Jeff Ireland is running this thing like a boss. It was Parcells and Sparano who failed to realize the impact playmakers have and overvalue the cornfed.

Now if we can just get Bailey, Herbal Badger, and Gillislee tonight we can start talking world championships.
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Agree with most of this and love the enthusiasm, but still can't say I love the Brandon Marshall trade. Even if this receiving group is good next year (we have yet to see), Marshall is arguably better.
Also - and not to sound like a pessimist bc I love the offseason and I love the Jordan pick - but if our corners suck next year and Dion Jordan only plays on third downs and doesnt have an impact, I will continue to hate the Vontae Davis trade.

In perspective, I like Jordan and am happy we had the second to move up (thank you Vontae). Never going to like the Marshall trade though. I know a lot of people couldnt wait to see him go, but he's the best receiver we've had for a long time, and was in his prime.
 
Well-stated WV. To add to that, it looks like our owner's learning curve also has plateaued and his instincts and natural business acumen are kicking in. Even more so if the reports that he told his coaches to do whatever was possible (more picks offered presumably) to go after the player (Jordan) they most wanted are accurate.
 
Vaark said:
Well-stated WV. To add to that, it looks like our owner's learning curve also has plateaued and his instincts and natural business acumen are kicking in. Even more so if the reports that he told his coaches to do whatever was possible (more picks offered presumably) to go after the player (Jordan) they most wanted are accurate.
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That's exactly what it sounded like to me, honestly.

"What do you want?"

"Dion Jordan."

"Then go get him."

For the subordinates part, it sounds like they take that trust seriously.
 
Not gonna lie, I was scared to death thinking Ireland was trading up to go CORN. I really thought the pick was going to be Lane Johnson. And I would've proceeded to kick a newborn had that been the case. Thank god that it wasn't, though!
 
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Yessir said:
Not gonna like, I was scared to death thinking Ireland was trading up to go CORN. I really thought the pick was going to be Lane Johnson. And I would've proceeded to kick a newborn had that been the case. Thank god that it was n't, though!
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lol...I'll have to find my drunk post last night. I was talking to my wife, not expecting the Dolphins to be mentioned for an hour or so, and all
of a sudden I was like...WHAT?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Then it was ok
 
I kind of look at it like this:
Brandon Marshall, Vontae Davis, and a first rounder but not the extra second = Let's say Tyler Eiffert.
Mike Wallace, Dion Jordan.

Would you rather have those 3 without the trades, or the two with the trades? To me it's at least very questionable.
 
It's taken a while but the ghost of Bill Parcells is finally exorcised. Thank goodness.
 
hammond47 said:
I kind of look at it like this:
Brandon Marshall, Vontae Davis, and a first rounder but not the extra second = Let's say Tyler Eiffert.
Mike Wallace, Dion Jordan.

Would you rather have those 3 without the trades, or the two with the trades? To me it's at least very questionable.
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Actually I want whomover our promising, well-thought out man with a plan of a HC wants.. and for the good of the team, he wanted neither Marshall nor Davis. So IMO, that option is moot and considering the reality, Ireland did a helluva job.
 
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