Yahoo says Harbaugh to Fins/Michigan because players are disgruntled

[jvw]

:sidelol:

Dude, he took over a 6-10 team that was bottom 1/3 of the NFL in offense and bottom 1/2 of the NFL in defense. He made them top 1/3 of the NFL in offense and #2 in scoring defense his first year on the job. He did it with almost exactly the same players, against a harder schedule. That's right, Their SoS was -3.3 (that's bad!) in 2010 when they went 6-10, and -1.1 (that's not nearly as bad!) in 2011 when they went 13-3.

Starting QB both years: Alex Smith
Leading Rusher both years: Frank Gore
Leading Receivers both years: Vernon Davis & Michael Crabtree

We're not talking about an infusion of talent over there on offense. Their #2 and #3 wideouts in 2011 were KYLE WILLIAMS and TED GINN. #11 in scoring offense with one legitimate wide receiver.

The only big name they added in 2011? Aldon Smith.

The difference between the 2010 San Francisco 49ers and the 2011 San Francisco 49ers was COACHING. On offense, they took the SAME PARTS and scored 75 more points. On defense, they added ONE part and allowed over 100 fewer points. NaVorro Bowman, anyone? Mike Singletary had him on the bench behind the corpse of Takeo Spikes. Jim Harbaugh made him a starter. Gee willikers, that seems like a smart coach who actually puts his most talented players on the field!

It is laughable to me that anyone thinks Jim Harbaugh 'inherited' a championship football team. Jim Harbaugh inherited a football team with some talent and terrible coaching and has been to three straight title games with two different quarterbacks.

I can't believe Dolphins fans would turn their nose up at great coaching because the guy wears weird puffy khaki pants and makes funny faces on the sidelines sometimes. You're going to say 'no thanks' to a coach with that track record (he was pretty dang good as a college coach, too) because you want to hold on to... Joe Philbin?

First let me clarify that I never said hold on to Philbin, I don't want Harbaugh......His first yr on the job he won in the worst division in football, the Cardinals came in 2nd with only 8 wins and they played the nfc east which was won by the giants with a 9-7 record only team over 500, and in 2010 the division winner in the west won 7 games so that's the reason it appear they had a tougher schedule 2011 vs 2010.....so dominating that division his first yr not as impressive as you make it out to be when the next best team only won 8 games. Then he got beat by a 9-7 Giant team at home in the championship game......His best team was in 2012, had to go on the road with a rookie QB and win in Atlanta to get to the SB....Lost to team he should have beat...now that he is in the toughest division in football lets see if he makes the playoffs...

I think he is a good coach but not as good is you think he is......if he leaves San Fran his success will be based on the staff he will have to assemble at his next stop....I think San Fran will make his OC or DC the head coach and probably keep most of the assistants in place...the same team that came with him from Stanford is the biggest reason why he has been successful at this level......Harbaugh is better than Philbin but he's no Belicheck....If he leaves San Fran someone is going to pay him a lot of money to coach an average team at best.....

 

[josephreese]

Because he and his GM don't get along.
I'm sure somewhere in your past some woman wanted to part ways with you. Should that have been taken as a warning sign that all women should avoid you?

I hear you, and I hear the others making the same point. It's just that I suspect there are valid reasons for the front office wanting to shed him, and with the moderate success he's had those reasons would have to be pretty compelling. The way you made your point also touched on my second point about failed relationships. If I have one failed relationship, it happens. If I have several, that's a trend, and at some point I have to look in the mirror and take some responsibility for them. Harbaugh has shown that he wears out his welcome pretty quickly. That worries me should he land in Miami.

 

[JTC111]

Harbaugh has shown that he wears out his welcome pretty quickly. That worries me should he land in Miami.

What are you talking about? Where did he wear out his welcome?

He spent 3 years as head coach at the University of San Diego and won their league the last two years he was there.

He used that success to land the head coaching job at Stanford and ran a successful program there. In 2010, the team went 11-1, their most successful year ever and they won the Orange Bowl. He used that success to land an NFL coaching job where he's met with similar success.

Where has he worn out his welcome? Currently, it's common knowledge that he and his GM don't like each other yet San Fran is in no hurry to get rid of him either. So apparently he's still welcome there.

 

[whizafriz]

Mike Singletary: "Hmm, this NaVorro Bowman kid plays with a lot of energy. But he's not a veteran, so I don't trust him. Hey, Takeo! Get your helmet on, you're starting!"

Joe Philbin: "Hmm, this Chris McCain kid plays with a lot of energy. But he's not a veteran, so I don't trust him. Hey, Ellerbe! Get your helmet on, you're starting!"

Hopefully once Jeff Ireland's very pricey acquisitions have run their course, Miami's talent pool can finally allow for real competition.

 

[Austin Tatious]

If you are a coach in over your head and the players are disgruntled, it's probably a bad sign for the coach, because the players know the coach is overmatched.

But if you are an elite coach, then too bad for the players. They probably are tired of the commitment they need. That's a different beast than complaining about an inept coach. Harbaugh took over a 6-10 team and they are a whopping 38-13 under his watch. Harbaugh is an elite coach. Players complaing about a bad coach versus a good coach are two different things. Players may have complained about Shula but he was a winner so too bad for the players.

It's the equivalent to Jimmy Johnson's story about a player falling asleep in a meeting. Bad player gets cut. If its Troy Aikman, he says "wake up."

 

[zach attach]

Another bull in a china shop like the in-over-his-head HC and defacto GM who cost us Aaron Rodgers. I'm not surprised his act gets old with the players after the novelty wears off. I might be okay with him if Hickey or if there's a replacement GM hires him expressly as the HC, but definitely not if he bamboozles Ross into an oversight arrangement like the one Coach Mediocre, his agent and his agent's son colluded to arrange in St. Louis. In your puppy exuberance Mr Ross, please do not give this loose cannon the keys to the kingdom; Harbaugh doesn't stay anywhere too long whether it's wearing out his welcome or wonderlust. We can't afford a break in any continuity we might be building, watching him pull a Saban and high tail it to Michigan when the going gets rough.

That's my problem with Philbin. He's had some competitive teams, and we get 7-9 and 8-8. That's one game better, but the muff of the last 2 games to miss the playoffs was a permanent red mark on his record. Like Tannehill, Joe's gotta show somethiing that let's us KNOW he's man, not just think it.

 

[JTC111]

Harbaugh took over a 6-10 team and they are a whopping 38-13 under his watch. Harbaugh is an elite coach.

Why would we want a coach with a record like that?

 

[JTC111]

...muff of the last 2 games to miss the playoffs was a permanent red mark on his record.

Does anyone here think a Harbaugh coached team blows those two games?

 

[johngarryvo]

if Harbaugh goes, it's to Michigan.. they'll open the vault to get him

 

[TheWalrus]

If you are a coach in over your head and the players are disgruntled, it's probably a bad sign for the coach, because the players know the coach is overmatched.

But if you are an elite coach, then too bad for the players. They probably are tired of the commitment they need. That's a different beast than complaining about an inept coach. Harbaugh took over a 6-10 team and they are a whopping 38-13 under his watch. Harbaugh is an elite coach. Players complaing about a bad coach versus a good coach are two different things. Players may have complained about Shula but he was a winner so too bad for the players.

It's the equivalent to Jimmy Johnson's story about a player falling asleep in a meeting. Bad player gets cut. If its Troy Aikman, he says "wake up."

There's an old rule in writing: if you think that maybe you should cut something, go ahead and cut it, because you will cut it eventually. Young writers resist this advice at first, but eventually they all learn just how true it is.

A similar thing is true of head coaches (and quarterbacks, for that matter). Once the ball of "they're not the guy" starts down the mountain, it's almost always just a matter of time. All that's left is how long you're going to wait before moving on.

 

[PFC]

And he doesn't know how to win games ...oh wait. Never mind.

Not the big one anyways or the one that really matters..He's got the same amount of rings as Philbin or Sparano for that matter..

 

[HarryBagpipe]

He's got the same amount of rings as Philbin or Sparano for that matter..

Spoiler

 

[dlockz]

Not the big one anyways or the one that really matters..He's got the same amount of rings as Philbin or Sparano for that matter..

well if that's your case than any crappy coach is as good as Harbaugh.

 

[JTC111]

Not the big one anyways or the one that really matters..He's got the same amount of rings as Philbin or Sparano for that matter..

The NFC Championship isn't a big game? Really?
And I guess you didn't know, but...

Harbaugh's potential for Super Bowl rings in higher than either. Harbaugh has a track record that neither Philbin nor Sparano can match.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

The NFC Championship isn't a big game? Really?
And I guess you didn't know, but...

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Marino calls his, "A loser's ring".