big news out of cleveland!

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  1. ohiobryan

    ohiobryan Well-Known Member

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    browns are eyeing rb adrian peterson....not brady quinn.it was said tonight in cleveland sports...so that leaves quinn to fall to at least 7 with the minnesota vikings who will take a long look at him....so we need to jump them and get to number 5 cards or 6 skins....what do you guys think?
     
  2. miami234ever

    miami234ever DenverCheesesteak

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    Thanks for the news bro. I'm more worried about Detroit. I hope this isn't just a smokescreen.
     
  3. FINSFAN2781

    FINSFAN2781 The Tuna era has begun.

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    My feeling all along is that Cleveland will take Peterson. Im not worried about CLE drafting Quinn.
     
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    MiamiMan147 I'm a Rocket Man

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    Its not outside the realm of possiblity that neither of the top 2 QBs get drafted in the top 5. I can see a scenario where the top 3 are Johnson - Thomas - Peterson. From there the next team that might take a QB would be the Vikings, and that's far from a lock. Quinn just may be sitting there for us at #9.
     
  5. SR 7

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    they will dude. they need to take pressure off the QB.
     
  6. miami234ever

    miami234ever DenverCheesesteak

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    Who do people have Detroit taking? Is anyone more worried about Detroit than Cleveland besides me?
     
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    is Rueben Droughns not enough???
     
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    i think Detroit has far more needs than a QB. Jon Kitna is FINE if u ask me...but they can draft Brady...sure...but who is gonna protect him??? Detroit neeeds A LOT of spots filled...and QB is one they actually are ok on.
     
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    I think it is possible that both QB'S could fall.

    It's just very hard to believe though that the draft will work out to where 2 potential frnchise QB's fall to 7. It's just hard to fathom, though when you look t the team it is a possibility

    Oakland- Johnson
    Detroit- Joe Thomas or Gaines Adams
    Cleveland- Peterson

    I mean that could very well hppen. I don't see TB, rizon or Washington taking a QB.

    Who knows. Honestly I Am not worried about Detroit one bit taking a QB.
     
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    He was traded to the Giants but they have jamal lewis.
     
  11. ohiobryan

    ohiobryan Well-Known Member

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    say one hailmary everynight until draft day i am the president of the brady quinn bandwagon let's reel him in.
     
  12. zach8111

    zach8111 Pro Bowler

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    detroit IMO is taking thomas and clev take AP. then we will trade up with washington and it would only cost our 3 rounder
     
  13. zach8111

    zach8111 Pro Bowler

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    yes they have lewis but why did they only sign him for 1 year if they were gonna have him for the future. think about it. they WILL take AP in the draft
     
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    zach8111 Pro Bowler

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    no i think russell will be taken by clev because their list in order goes like this: russell , AP, quinn, thomas. so i see quinn falling enough fo us to pick him up where we dont have to give away alot of picks only 1 third rounder
     
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    miami234ever DenverCheesesteak

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    But why would DET take Thomas?
     
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    I'm a little concerned that Brady Quinn has not played enough top quality, pro-style teams to come in and make an immediate difference for the Fins. Having read that the Fins were also planning on meeting with JaMarcus Russell, I wonder if they are going to try to make a trade for the #1 pick, or deal with Oakland after they pick Russell. It just seems something might be in the works. Obviously, I'd much prefer Russell to Quinn. I will be greatly surprised if Russell does not succeed in his very first year with his first pro team. :)
     
  17. zach8111

    zach8111 Pro Bowler

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    there o-line is horrible and they still have kitna. i think therewill go after stanton in the second cuz they will have first shot at him before any other team other than oakland and they take russell. i think they are gonna be a little hesitate to pick another QB in the first after what happened to joey
     
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    every team is having interviews with russel and quinn and johnson and all the top ten projections cuz they want to know the guy and see how good he really is in case they happen to fall to them. they will NOT trade up to number 1 spot. it will cost tooooooooooooo much. i think we could gety quinn with only losing our 3 rounder.
     
  19. AtomX666

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    I cant say enough how much I hate trading up.I f we trade up for anyone it should be Calvin Johnson and that aint gonna happen.I like Quinn alot,way more than Russell.Many a team has blown a high draft pick on a bum.Sure we could get a Peyton,Elway,or Tomlinson type player.Or we could be giving up picks,which we havent had alot of the last few years,for Carr,Harrington,Mirer,Leaf,Kijana,Akili,Blair Thomas,Gallery or dare i say Eli.We gotta stand pat.CJ seems like the surest thing out there.But remember Charles Rogers.That guy was more of a sure thing than Calvin,and lokk where he wound up.This team throughout my years as a fan(84) has had its only success with the later picks.How many QBs went before Marino?Maybe we should have traded up for Obrien,Blackledge,or Eason . Zach,JT, Madison, Surtain ,Bowens, Chambers, Gardner, McMichael,none of these guys were the top 2 or 3 at there position,but we had a nice run despite where they are now.Maybe we were a dumb luck pick of a sixth round backup college QB of us being a dynasty.Ronnie was a number 2,Im not dissin him,but did he turn our franchise around.keep the picks,try and get more and look to the late 1st thru 3rd.I'd rather take my chances on the Staley,Stanton, Merriwether,Leonard,Eric Wright,Ben Patrick,Sabby Piscatelli type of guys than put all the eggs in the Quinn basket.At 9 grab him in a heartbeat.Otherwise build a team for tomorrow.
     
  20. GRYPHONK

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    That's if you believe what is reported on NFL live

    I am sure teams aren't gonna legitally give out info on who their pecking order is. It would give Cleveland no leverage if they threated to take someone else. I also don't believe they would take Russel over Quinn. It is just my opinion

    But I do agree. Quinn can and might fall to 6 which we gotta take advantage of.
     
  21. 7Kit

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    How can anyone see the Raiders not taking a QB? That franchise is circling the drain and they need a new face for the franchise. The only other option for them at #1 is Calvin Johnson, and w/ Randy Moss and CJ, who will get them the ball? Marques Tuiasosopo? Andrew Walters? Josh Booty? They desperately need a QB.

    Joe Thomas is likely to go within the top 5 as the only top line O-Lineman. And i'm not so sure that the Browns take Peterson. They did pick up Jamal Lewis. and peterson has a history of injuries. the browns have other needs they could address or pick up a good defensive player. Quinn is more likely to slip down, and even then, he may not fall to us.
     
  22. Hoot

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    lol this stuff cracks me up. How can you take the word of any team about who they are going to pick, or even focusing on? It's all smoke and mirrors before the draft. Heck, look at Braylon Edwards. Phins flat out told him they were going to pick him, then they go with Ronnie Brown. Braylon said he was a little hurt by the ordeal, but found out it's business real quick (sad to see).

    So they are eyeing Peterson, well of course they are, who wouldn't. The guy is phenomenal. Doesn't mean a thing about them not taking Quinn, doesn't mean a thing about Detroit not taking Quinn. Not trying to be harsh at all, just pointing out the obvious. Smoke and mirrors. Until I see a player literally signed before the draft, there are no promises.
     
  23. MrClean

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    :yeahthat: There is at least one person here with a logical outlook. You basically echoed my thoughts to the letter.
     
  24. Phins19

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    i think its just a publicity stunt that all the teams are/will be pulling to throw us fans as well as other teams off. im sure each team is interested in 2-3 different people they would like to pull in at their spot. just reading these boards i think ive heard of like 3 or 4 different people Miami would like to pull in at #9.
     
  25. Mr.Majestik

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    If there are rumors, or scuttlebutt involving

    a particular player going to a particular franchise you can almost certainly toss it. If the word is that Cleveland is going to draft Peterson, they are not going to draft Peterson. How many times do we have to hear that a guy is climbing into this spot, or that, only to discover after the draft it was a head fake? What sense does it make for the Cleveland Browns to take Adrian Peterson? They don't have a franchise quarterback. Franchise running backs are a dime a dozen in the NFL, they can be drafted at any spot, in any round. What's the logic in paying a running back top 3 money when the running back class is very deep and you could get a premium player at that position in the second round, or third? The chance of drafting a premium quarterback prospect at that point are small.
     
  26. dahlmarino

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    If Cleveland really is in "win now" mode, I think a QB is the last thing on their mind, considering how much a QB would have to learn coming to a new team, let alone moving up from college to the Pro's. My guess is that they have 2 players in mind: Joe Thomas and AP. If they get Thomas, the left side of their line looks pretty good right now, and they could get Kenny Irons or another starter-ready RB in the second. If they get AP, they still get a player who can contribute right away, and someone who could also take a lot of pressure off whoever lines up under center (most likely Frye or Andersen).
     
  27. MarinoForPres

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    i can see that
     
  28. Agent51

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    No, that leaves nothing because for one, nothing that is said leading up to the draft can be trusted, and 2 "eyeing" a player is not garunteeing you are taking him.

    That being said, should it happen that Detroit passes and Cleveland takes Adrian, I want to trade up with the Redskins to take him because it is cheaper than trading up to 4 or 5 (ot to mention those are useless trades since TB and Arizona don't need QBs) and it still puts us before Minny.
     
  29. taylormvp99

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    I can see Cleveland passing on Quinn and taking Peterson. I cannot see them passing on Russell though. There's no way Russell falls out of the top 3 in my opinion. Miami would need to trade up to 6 to assure themselves of getting Quinn because I believe Minnesota will take him at 7 unless Landry drops to them.
     
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    What I wonder is, why doesn't anyone make mention of the fact that there are a number of teams that draft after the Dolphins that could use a really good shot at a franchise QB (like Quinn) and just might trade over us? I recognize that we have the ninth pick which affords us more leverage on that principle alone but what other teams after us could really make the plunge??

    Andrew @ Pulp Fiction
     
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    Landry will be there at 7 (who else will take him?), but the question is does Minny pick him over Quinn? I go back and forth all the time.

    On one hand, Minny spent a 2nd rounder (and I believe traded up for) Tavarius Jackson last year, and while he had a bad year, he WAS a rookie and it seems too early to give up on an investment like that.

    On the other, Quinn is a special talent and Tavarius DOESN'T appear to be the answer, so they may just cut their losses and nab Quinn if he fall sin their lap and chalk up the investment in Jackson last year as part of the investment in Quinn.
     
  32. Aqua4Ever04

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    I too thought Cleveland would get Peterson all along.

    My first 10 mock

    1. Oakland- Jamarcus Russell
    2. Detroit- Joe Thomas
    3. Cleveland- Adrian Peterson
    4. Tampa Bay- Calvin Johnson
    5. Arizona- Gaines Adams
    6. Miami (trade up) - Brady Quinn
    7. Minnesota- Ted Ginn Jr.
    8. Atlanta- Laron Landry
    9. Washington- Jamaal Anderson
    10. Houston- Levi Brown

    Todd McShay is saying that Quinn will be this year's Leinart and will be a Viking or a Dolphin.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draf...olumns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=2831677

    Can't read the whole article unless you are an insider, but there it is.
     
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    Teams right behind Miami are no threat to trade all the way up to draft Quinn. Here are the teams behind Miami:

    10. Texans...just gave Matt Schaub $49 Million. No chance.
    11. 49ers...Alex Smith. No chance.
    12. Bills...J.P. Losman progressed really well at the end of last year. Highly doubtful.
    13. Rams...Marc Bulger. No chance.
    14. Panthers...Jake Delhomme is getting older but it's doubtful they trade up all the way up to take Quinn. Doubtful.
    15. Steelers...Ben Roethlisberger. No chance.
    16. Packers...They have a 1st round QB in Aaron Rodgers. Highly doubtful.
    17. Jaguars...They aren't happy with the QB position but I don't think they have the ammo to move up that far. Doubtful
    18. Bengals...Carson Palmer. No chance.
    19. Titans...Vince Young. No chance.
    20. Giants...Eli Manning. No chance.
    21. Broncos...Jay Cutler. No chance.
    22. Cowboys...Tony Romo. No chance.

    There's only 2 teams in the next 13 picks with any possibility of moving up to take Quinn and those 2 teams have other needs before the QB position.
     
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    I think there's a small chance that Washington could take Landry. Plus, there's that rumor about New England trading the 28th pick and Asante Samuel to Washington for the 6th pick so they can draft Landry.
     
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    I really think if Quinn falls past the top 3 we'd have to screw up BIG time NOT to land him. Washington has NO picks after their 1st rounder. There next pick is round FIVE. They are practically BEGGING to trade down, and we are practically begging for a franchise QB. It's a match made in heaven, so long as he gets past Detroit and Cleveland. Washington NEEDS more picks, so even if they COULD use Quinn (doubtful since Campbell was a 1st rounder), it isn't such a need that they would pass up the chance at getting extra picks to do so.

    I personally think Brady Quinn is a Miami Dolphin so long as he escapes Detroit and Cleveland.
     
  36. WestCKoastiN

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    good news.
     
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    Oops. I didn't mean to say there's a small chance Washington could take Quinn, I meant Landry. I think they are more than happy with developing Jason Campball. I agree with you about Quinn slipping past Cleveland though. Something tells me that Minnesota will not take Quinn. He doesn't seem like their type of player. Hopefully Childress and the staff feel the same way. I just wish the draft was this Saturday instead of the 28th.
     
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    Yeah really, this time of year is WAY to stressful for me :lol:

    Football is the only sport I follow, the rest either bore me (baseball, hockey), don't interest me one bit (basketball), or only occasionally interest me if nothings on (NASCAR), but I follow football (college and pro) HARDCORE, and this time of year is absolute hell. It's so slow for news and action, and what "news" we do get cannot be trusted on bit, so it drives me crazy. 17 more days though, and then we get 2 days of more football stats and facts than we can handle, then NOTHING til training camp. It's like going on a giant binge before rehab :lol:
     
  39. taylormvp99

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    Oh that must be tough not following any other sports. If I was just a football fan I would be going crazy at this point. Thank God I'm a diehard Yankees fan and a big Nets fan. I don't know what I'd do from May until August in the sporting world.
     
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    If you believe anything you hear this time of the year weeks before the draft then you need your head examined...NO GM is going to tell you anything of worth...it's a game of disinformation...look it up...disinformation!!:tantrum:
     

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