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Crowder on Dolphins GM Ireland: ‘He’s not a good person’

jacquesstrap said:
Obtained my TS clearance in 1979, MOS 98G(Chinese Linguist). Among the questions that I was asked: Have you had sex with animals? Are you a homosexual? Do you have friends who are homosexual? What is your family background? Is any of your family in the nut house? Have you done drugs? So Ireland asked about Bryant's background? So what?
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So playing footBALL is the same as your job really. Hmm I guess even some military guys dont get it. Im willing to bet your job is alot more important and your character much more important than being a football player. How many lives could be lost because his mother was a prostitute or how many lives could he put in danger , my point exactly. To equate a damn football player with people that are defending the citizens of this country safe is an insult and does not justify Ireland asking squat.
 
DolfanISS said:
He stuffed Shon Green on a big 4th and 1 and also broke up a screen to LT or Greene that would have went a long way in our 2nd game with the Jets last year.
He picked off Brady to seal a win over NE in 09.
I know he lit up Welker in 08 or 09 and think he popped Sammie Morris causing him to fumble in 2008. I know he caused a fumble his rookie year just don't remember who is was against.
2 100 plus tackle seasons.

I don't think Crowder is very good but at least know some facts before posting. This was off the top of my head.
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The fact you can remember almost all of his plays, speak to what people are really getting at. He is below avg, with a big mouth.
 
The Confessor said:
Actually, not even close.

Dez Bryant has already had multiple run ins with the LAW here in Dallas.

On top of that, Jerra has also:

1)Assigned a permanent "Big Brother" to keep his a$$ out of the news, jail and other. That doesn't even seem to be working.
2)Paid off a HUGE debt that Bryant ran up on Jewelry right after getting into the NFL. He spent 100,000s of dollars on jewelry that he didn't have the money to pay for.
I'm telling you, there is already lots of really negative talk in regards to Dez Bryant here in Dallas.

THESE are the things that Ireland was prying into. For that matter, nobody outside the circle even knows the entire story of why he didn't play his last season at OSU. Good chance that the things that Ireland was probing for were directly related to that.

I'm not saying the questions were morally correct or not. Not something I would ask (And no, they don't ask you that verbatim on a DOD Top Secret clearance, I can personally assure you of that), but lets not act like Ireland is alone in this. Every FO is looking deep into something they are possibly going to be spending MILLIONS of dollars on. I would to. Its referred to as ROI. Tough to get a "Return On Investment" if that investment is behind bars.....
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So running up a huge bill which he could pay for but didnt and sagging his pants are worse than having police continually arrest you , I guess in your world.
 
dlockz said:
So playing footBALL is the same as your job really. Hmm I guess even some military guys dont get it. Im willing to bet your job is alot more important and your character much more important than being a football player. How many lives could be lost because his mother was a prostitute or how many lives could he put in danger , my point exactly. To equate a damn football player with people that are defending the citizens of this country safe is an insult and does not justify Ireland asking squat.
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Frankly, why do you even care anymore? It was a blip on Dez's radar, and Ireland has moved on by bringing in new players and helping in the search for a new Coach.

Too much political correctness in this damn country. Ireland asked a question. Where as I, if I felt the need to ask the question, should have been enough of a red flag about the guy to begin with. Bryant is what he is. A hood rat.
 
DolfanDuBbZ~ said:
Frankly, why do you even care anymore? It was a blip on Dez's radar, and Ireland has moved on by bringing in new players and helping in the search for a new Coach.

Too much political correctness in this damn country. Ireland asked a question. Where as I, if I felt the need to ask the question, should have been enough of a red flag about the guy to begin with. Bryant is what he is. A hood rat.
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Because dlockz is a racist

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And this goofball wants to make a "comeback"? What GM is going to want to sign him (average anyway) when he has his own radio show where he talks **** about people?
 
DolfanDuBbZ~ said:
The fact you can remember almost all of his plays, speak to what people are really getting at. He is below avg, with a big mouth.
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Whew, I thought you were going to just say it was sad I remembered all that crap. The main point is right though, Crowder is very average. I was killing Burnett at the begining of the season but he is much better.
 
i heard some dez bryant interviews. Thought he was not too bright. end of story for me.
 
Damn, if I were in a job interview (like Bryant was) for a multimillion dollar job, they could ask me whatever the hell they wanted too.

"So FightingPhins, is your mother a prositute?"

"No sir"

It's like when you tell someone they are fat. The only people that get indignant are fat people.
 
jacquesstrap said:
dlockz, All I'm saying is that there are worse questions that can be asked.
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I went way beyond this people makes mistakes but it does speak to a lack of professionalism. I do find it funny that people on this board belittle Bryants character but have no problem with Brandon Marshall's
 
My opinion of Jeff Ireland plunged lower than I thought possible when he drafted Jimmy Wilson. I touched on this in another thread last night but wanted to expand on it a little bit. Wilson was the one guy in decades who I wanted no part of, regardless of ability level. I posted frequently on true crime sites during that period and followed the Wilson case closely in real time, after reading about it on Montana websites that I had bookmarked years earlier during the Rick Tabish case. Tabish, who is from Montana, and Sandy Murphy were tried for the murder of Las Vegas casino executive Ted Binion.

Jimmy Wilson was acquitted primarily because he happened to kill a guy who was even more of a lowlife than he was. That was my opinion after following the case, and shared by countless posters on Montana message boards. Kevin Smoot was unavailable to provide his version, which is typical when you have a hole in your chest. Wilson's buddy Qwenton Freeman was an eyewitness who fled the scene -- and the state -- with Wilson after the shooting and refused to cooperate with authorities. Freeman is a charming sort who was later involved in a home invasion that included burglary, and a woman pistol-whipped and duct taped.

Wilson and Freeman were night time thugs in Missoula, well known to police. Unfortunately the related posts on the Missoulian website have long since been deleted. They were frequent and disturbing. A case like this becomes problematic when a court verdict goes the other way. Accusatory posts are deleted. Media is reluctant to investigate further, worried about legal matters. That's what I was told by one reporter when I contacted Miami media, furious that the Wilson case was not being examined, and we were being treated to the sob story about a nephew coming to the defense of his aunt, the rifle going off accidentally when it happened to be aimed at the deceased's chest. I'll bet.

I don't care what Wilson does on the field. He shouldn't be in the league, or have been on Miami's board. Ireland bragged that he talked to chancellors and athletic directors. I'm confident he didn't talk to prosecutors or police, the ones who said they were very familiar with Wilson.

http://www.grizzoulian.com/2007/06/articles/football/jimmy-wilson-no-stranger-to-the-police/

This isn't something I'll mention again. But if a video/audio of Wilson pulling the trigger and everything surrounding the incident, before and after, suddenly surfaced, I guarantee nobody would care whether he could cover, and his version wouldn't threaten to jive with the tape.
 
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