Dolphins First Round Pick- Final Answers?

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  1. So Be

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    I've been up, down, around, and through on making a choice for weeks, going through tons of grades, analysis, and opinions. My final answer is moving on up to try and fix the OL.

    My reason is simple. Our team is going nowhere without a VG QB, and Tannehill is our best and only option. This is his most important year, and if he does not succeed we are back to the drawing board. I have to try and give him the best help we possibly can, and that is getting him the best protection possible. That requires biting the bullet and moving up for the best guy on the OL we can get.

    Nothing else matters more. JMO
     
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    Only one option remains-BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE! If Matthews, Lewan, Martin and Robinson are all gone, don't reach for one of the other O-linemen. Take BPA!
     
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    Linebacker. Mosley or Shazier will be the pick. Hickey is not content with this group of linebackers whatsoever, and showed a bit of his hand with the interest shown in D'qwell Jackson.
     
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    I hope that we pick XSF. I expect that we pick CJ Mosley if he's available.
     
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    Eh.... thing is that trading up for OL would be needed only for LT.

    If we plan on playing Matthews, Lewan, etc at RT then ok, but I feel that is too expensive (draft wise).

    Plenty of top tier RT's in late 1st, 2nd etc...

    I know a lot hate the mock draft but trading down into a late first and grabbing Moses or James would be wise. Obtain a extra 2nd or 3rd in the draft to fill in BPA slots.
     
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    Linebacker. Hoping for Mosley but Shazier would not shock me.
     
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    I will say xsf
     
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    I would love to trade down but feel Joel Bitonio is a better fit
     
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    I am getting the same feeling as the OP. If Matthews falls to the bottom of the top 10 I think we move up. Stud RT for 2 years then moved to be our franchise LT for the next 10. Worth the move IMO.
     
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    Final answer? Marqise Lee. But I know it won't be him, because I don't think we have the guts to move on from Brian Hartline.
     
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    Morgan mosses or Brandin cooks
     
  12. So Be

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    Matthews or Lewan were who I was thinking of. Maybe move up a bit for Martin. With the best pass rushers now switching sides for match ups, and pressure coming from all over in blitzes, RT has an increased value. Add in RT rolling out, screens, moving pockets, and being able to run the ball.

    I have to move up to get someone with the better potential of being VG.
     
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    Players I want in order: Taylor Lewan, Zack Martin, Calvin Pryor, CJ Mosley, Marqise Lee. At least one of these guys should be there at 19.

    If we go with Morgan Moses, Cyrus Kouandjio, Ryan Shazier, Odell Beckham, or Brandin Cooks, I'm going to be disappointed.
     
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    a poor scheme fit
     
  15. So Be

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    No one is as important than Tannehill in the entire Dolphins organization. First year, no receivers other than Hartline. Second year, no protection or running game. Have to give him his best chance to show he is the answer this year.

    ---------- Post added at 11:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:33 AM ----------

    Who Hoos?
     
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    Who moses
     
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    The top 3 on my board with Miami sitting at 19 is 1) Zack Martin OT 2) CJ Mosley ILB, and 3) Eric Ebron TE. It's a good possibility that none of these guys even make it to 19, which is a reason why this will be a very exciting draft to watch due to all the scenarios that can take shape, and how unpredictable it has proven to be so far.
     
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    Either Mosley, or trade down and nab some offensive line + an extra pick or 2...
     
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    I'm with you on this except I have Eric Ebron before CJ Mosley. I would love to see some 2 TE sets with Clay and Ebron in some goal to go situations. having the ability to create some major mis-matches in our favor really interests me.
     
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    Oline, I don't want us to trade up because we have too many holes to fill, either trade down if there isn't good value at 19. I wouldn't even have a problem with picking guard in the 1st, Martin or XSF, because giving Tannehill time and room to step into his throws would really help him. Probably in order one of the top 4 olinemen, Martin, XSF and then Bitonio just from what I've read, and if need be trade up in the 2nd round to nab another olineman. Not exciting but would make a huge difference to what Tannehill can do.
     
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    OL is no longer the do-or-die pick at #19. The group we have right now is better than last years. The defense however sucks at the LB position, then look at the wholesale changes in the D backfield, thats unsettled still, add in the uncertainty over DJordan and his development / injury questions, the departure of Soliai, and you can easily make a case for taking a D player as BPA at #19 is the best pick pending trades etc.
     
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    Why reach for a O-lineman? If one doesn't fall, why not get Eric Winston or other RT free agent? Then draft the BPA, could be WR/LB/OG, as long as it's the highest rated player on our board.
     
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    My predictions of what we will do:

    1. Try to trade down for a late first rounder plus a second round pick;

    2. If we can't trade down we draft Shazier or Mosley.

    3. Draft BPA....and maybe field offers afterwards to deal him.
     
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    Eh... Don't know about ALREADY better.

    Sure we upgraded LT to Pro Bowl level, and C is more than set.

    We have questionable starters at both Guard positions in Shelley/D. Thomas/Brenner/Garner and again questionable starters at RT Fox/Garner/D. Thomas

    The only sure thing on the line at this moment is LT and C. Is Shelley/D. Thomas a upgrade over Incog/Jerry? Is Fox/Garner upgrade over SECOND HALF SEASON Clabo?

    :idk:

    If yes, marginal.

    Dolphins MUST walk away from this draft with a NFL (not Dolphins) starter caliber RT, and G.
     
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    Ebron....final answer!!!
     
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    it will probably be shazier knowing my luck with this team and i will drink gasoline
     
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    #19 - CJ Mosley, ILB Alabama

    if he and Zack Martin, OT Notre Dame are gone by then...

    #27 - Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG UCLA
    (trade NO #19 for #27 and #91)
     
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    I don't care who it is aslong as he plays from the start if not it's wasted......GIVE ME A PLAY MAKER!
     
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    If Martin is gone, trade back and grab XSF from UCLA.
     
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    I believe we'll move down and take James
     
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    You sir are lost in the weeds. Miami has 2 starters set for the offensive line, as of right now. 2. I guess you people believe in slamming your head against the wall, and expecting a different result.
     
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    :lol: I could see you throwing something at your TV (for real) based on your analysis of him.

    I think alot of the players mentioned, unfortunately will be off the board at #19, Martin (and the other top OL mentioned), Ebron and Mosley so trade down if possible or highest graded player on their draft board. Would not mind it being a WR but like JDW said- probably will not happen.
     
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    i've been thru so many bad draft decisions of guys i didnt even have on my board by this football team i guess i should expect it...there's zero doubt in my mind shazier would be another one...
     
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    if the players mentioned in the o/p's thread starter are truly on the finz radar then KYLE FULLER is my final answer.

    our secondary isnt ready to compete on a high level. he will be the best player available come time to pic. and lets faced it, cover corners are harder to find than a wr, rt or guard or rb.

    i believe calvin pryor will be gone but if he is there, that could be a dilema for them. pryor is a special safety. shazier is a hell of a player and MAYBE the best lb in this draft. but cover corner will just be to much to turn down
     
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    shazier -35% chance
    martin - 20% chance ( he might fall to us)
    mosley - 15% chance

    trade down - 15% chance
    trade up - 5%

    other player- 10 %
     
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    Mosely, XSF, Fuller, or Dennard.
     
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    If what people are saying is true and Hickey thinks Shazier can be his Lavonte then that pick is a lock.

    I want Lewan or Martin or Mosley. They will probably be all be gone at 19, not sure how I feel about a trade up with the perceived "deep" draft.
     
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    Still praying Ebron somehow falls to us. But I know he won't get past Baltimore
    Second I would pray Martin falls to us. But again doubting it will happen
    So realistically there is Mosley or shazier if we don't trade out. We can't go into the season with that same line backer group let's be realistic. I think the pick should be Mosley but might be Shazier.
    Fuller would be a solid pick but we have too much invested at corner already. Can wait until next year (and later rounds)
    Unfortunately that means no WR or TE - hopefully Finley looks good and we get him. Maybe another shot with Keller
    I don't see the linebacker talent later in the draft. And Jackson clearly was a big target in free agency

    We can move up if anything in the second for James Moses or kouanjillo. The tackle will fall to us. A captain in the middle of your defense makes a lot of sense.

    Lastly hoping for Tre Mason in the third because Moreno is blah and Miller is inconsistent

    Would you be happy if we somehow traded down and took James late first, and Carlos Hyde and a guard with the two seconds?
     

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