romio
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i agree but i say to heck with that play this playmaker stop farting aroung play the superstar
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Benny = pwned :ninja:
For a #9 pick and #9 money, he better come in and run back PR and KO and get a 1000 yards.
I can't believe how everybody is fine with us taking a PR at #9. Not just fine, but already making excuses for him just in case he sucks. We could have traded down in that draft and really cleaned house on the OL, and still got a good PR out of all this.
The way Cam immediately shipped out Wes, leaves me to believe that he already had that pick made when he got here. And don't give me the big BS story on how Randy was the one making the picks and blah, blah, blah. We all know the coach has a huge part in who gets picked and who stays year after year. At least on this team they do.
I hope it all works out fine and Ginn is the next best thing to sliced bread, because that's just about what he is gonna' have to be to impress me at this point. If and when he does become a solid WR/PR (solid meaning that he contributes as a second WR and is successful by #2 standards, plus runs back kicks) I'll be the first one to put up a thread stating how wrong I was and everybody can give me the big "I told you so".
I can't believe how everybody is fine with us taking a PR at #9. Not just fine, but already making excuses for him just in case he sucks. We could have traded down in that draft and really cleaned house on the OL, and still got a good PR out of all this.
The way Cam immediately shipped out Wes, leaves me to believe that he already had that pick made when he got here. And don't give me the big BS story on how Randy was the one making the picks and blah, blah, blah. We all know the coach has a huge part in who gets picked and who stays year after year. At least on this team they do.
I hope it all works out fine and Ginn is the next best thing to sliced bread, because that's just about what he is gonna' have to be to impress me at this point. If and when he does become a solid WR/PR (solid meaning that he contributes as a second WR and is successful by #2 standards, plus runs back kicks) I'll be the first one to put up a thread stating how wrong I was and everybody can give me the big "I told you so".
Phanatical
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Not really, Benny's challenge asked him to post 10 that had more than 1,000 yards receiving. He didn't do that, he only found 3.
finfan54
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I knew this back when Boomer was pushin this guy. What in heck did anyone really think was going to happen? You cant be the return guy full time and expect him to learn the offense and the routes when the guy is not the greatest route runner and also graduate from Ohio State.
Not to mention his ankle which no one else in creation thinks its going to be a problem yet it kept him out for a long time.
Not to mention his ankle which no one else in creation thinks its going to be a problem yet it kept him out for a long time.
Your looking at this the wrong way, MOST receivers don't fully bloom until their third year, if they bloom at all.
So if you get a great receiver prospect, who can also be a weapon on special teams and in a limited role as a receiver during his rookie year, your further ahead than if you drafted a receiver that is only a receiver.
Most receivers are ready to make pro bowls in their rookie year.
Aussiefinfan54
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all i will say is that i hope he is a ****ing good returner this coming season.
Aussiefinfan54
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Nice find!!!, these are the kind of numbers i would wanna see from him as a top 10 pick in his rookie year and i know benny said 100 yards, but that is bullcrap if a reciever is putting up 8 TD's and 780 plus yards i would call that a fair impact wouldnt y'all say.
VanDolPhan
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More like that guy and you owned yourselves.
Benny straight up said guys with 1000 yds receiving. I see 3 on that list. Just shows that you aren't reading the posts.
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What does graduating from Ohio State have to do with it? I understand you don't like the pick. I know you wanted Willis. It didn't happen. You can't keep crying about what didn't come to pass. For all of the knocks on Ginn you're trying to manufacture, there has been plenty of analysis on this board and in the media proving your points false. Look at the posts made by Boomer and CK in the draft forum, and those will set you straight.
finyank13
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theres only been 3 since 96, moss, clayton, and boldon....................
PhinstiGator
Hungry For A Championship
This quote is hardly a "blood boiler". C'mon, the kid will be a starter as a returner...he needs to nail down that learning curve first. I don't expect that to be too difficult...the kid is a natural with the ball in his hands.
Hat's off to Cam for speaking the truth. Some of you prefer "coach speak" where they say a whole lot of nothing. I hope that Cam does not ever have to turn on that "coach speak" filter for fear of upsetting some fan.
As a receiver, I expect him to be productive because he has always been productive. But, the learning curve will be longer. All Cam is saying is that we want him to be great at one position and then we will develop greatness in the next position. It's just a strategy of development. It's about process...
He's a rookie. There is a lot to learn. You eat the elephant one bite at a time. The Coach decides on the process to best develop the player.
Get the mental part of special teams out of the way in this mini-camp and then focus on the receiver position in training camp...when it really matters.
"...we've been through this with other guys..." Hmmm, so he is telling us that he done this before. Maybe that's how Wesley Welker got started in the NFL. Interesting.
Kinzua
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With a new HC, a new offense, a WR corps of Chambers, Booker, and Hagen, a 6-10 record last season, an unsettled QB situation, and a questionable OL, why shouldn't Ginn get a lot of time at WR as a rookie? It's not like Miami is expected to be a playoff contender. Ginn's NOT going to learn to run pass routes returning kicks and/or sitting on the bench.
I'm not saying that the Fins should start Ginn at WR on opening day, but it almost sounds to me like he may not be used very much at all as a WR as a rookie. Why not take some chances with the youngsters, especially a top ten pick like Ginn? This smacks of the same thing that Saban did in not giving young players chances to gain game-time experience because winning now was so important. Only the Fins didn't "win now", and they're less likely to win this year because they traded away too many picks and didn't give young players like Allen and Alabi game experience.
I'm not saying that the Fins should start Ginn at WR on opening day, but it almost sounds to me like he may not be used very much at all as a WR as a rookie. Why not take some chances with the youngsters, especially a top ten pick like Ginn? This smacks of the same thing that Saban did in not giving young players chances to gain game-time experience because winning now was so important. Only the Fins didn't "win now", and they're less likely to win this year because they traded away too many picks and didn't give young players like Allen and Alabi game experience.
PhinFan0202
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Most WRs take time to grow into consistent playmakers in the NFL. A good comparison to look at would be Santana Moss. His first year he played mostly the slot and did made an impact as a punt returner. You really did not see him blossum until he was traded to Washington, three years after being drafted. He didn't even play football in highschool as much because he was a track star first. Even though Moss was considered small and somewhat raw he has something that you can't teach, speed. Speed kills people and with Ginn we have alot of it.