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Jarvis Landry Complaints

If his 13 catches are 13 1sts downs or 13 TD's he's a special player. If not then his catches are stat sheet filler..

Saying Landry isn't "special" is borderline sacrilege. We haven't had an offensive player of his caliber since Ricky Williams.
 
Parker is nice and all, but he plays soft.

He isn't a top tier WR and will probably never be one. He's the WR equivalent of Ryan Tannehill.. All the skills and tools in the world but doesn't have the passion and leadership required to take it to the next level.
 
2 totally different athletes who essentially have totally different values to the team. Both are needed. I'll have to say I was disappointed that Parker didn't appear to get any kind of separation down the field, and had to make circus catches twice (of his 4 catches). On our final drive from the 50 I said please "no more jump balls"!! We were so due to get one of those picked. I don't know if it was the scheme, or the talent level of LA's corners, but there was barely any separation all day long.
 
The Dolphins have 53 players on the roster. They're all football players. I guess you don't remember the many times he's tried to juke someone one on one and failed.

In the literal sense of the word you're right... but that's not what I mean when I say he's a Football Player. Landry plays the game the way it was meant to be played. Many players today are what I call specialist, They in the one aspect of
The Dolphins have 53 players on the roster. They're all football players. I guess you don't remember the many times he's tried to juke someone one on one and failed.


All 53 of them play football but they are not all Football Players in the sense that I'm using the term. Landry plays the game the way it was meant to be played. Many players today are what I call specialist. For example, Stills in my opinion is a specialist, he'll run deep and intermediate routes and he's pretty good at that but he's below average at every other aspect of the game, he doesn't block well, he doesn't play special teams, he doesn't make many people miss after the catch etc... Landry on the other hand runs all the routes a WR is expected to run, he blocks, he tackles (when necessary) he returns kicks\punts all at a very high level. There aren't many players like him in the league and not one on this team.
 
Our offense is nothing without Landry
 
Earl Weaver who was an amazing manager for Baltimore used to say this......".a guy can got 3 for 4 with 3 singles and he'll drive in one run while a power hitter can go 1 for 4 but that one is a HR and he drives in 3. Landry is a singles hitter while Parker and Stills are the HR hitters on the team. You need all of them of course but if we keep running the offense thru Landry then we'll never score enough points to be a great offense. 13 catches but for a 6 ypc average is not going to help you much. He does bring an energy to the team just like Ajayi does and that's hard to replace but I'd rather Landry catch 8 passes while Stills and Parker get a few more targets which would lead to more points.

Ozzy rules!!

That analogy sounds great in a vacuum but in real life it's not that simple. What are the odds of that home run hitter driving in 3 runs the one time he does hit the ball if the singles hitters aren't getting on base? It's a team sport and you need every part of the equation to be great. You can't run the offense through Parker or Stills because intermediate and deep passes have a lower rates of success. There will be too many 2nd and 3rd and longs, also you put your oline in bad position trying to block in obvious passing situations. All of the short and underneath passes to Landry are supposed to open up the deep routes run by Parker and Stills.. But Parker could not get any separation in those situations yesterday.

New England's offense runs the exact same way, they kill you with the underneath routes and then hit you with the occasional deep pass. Why? because the underneath routes are more effective and have a higher rate of success than deep passes. And they put a tremendous amount of pressure on the defense because one blown assignment or missed tacked and those underneath routes can turn into big gains.
 
It's a tough spot. While I agree his position doesn't typically command the money he is seeking, there are always exceptions. The biggest issue is that he isn't much of a TD producer.

I do think people are undervaluing his worth to our team. I think losing him would be a death blow to this offense without replacing him with a top tier slot or TE talent.

If in the end it comes down to keeping Landry at a slightly bloated contract or keeping Tanny, Tanny has to go.

I'm not ready to concede that Landry isn't a TD producer, I know the numbers aren't there but I'm not quite sure how much of that is his fault. Yesterday he was open in the endzone and Cutler just missed him. I'm sure there were plenty of times throughout the years here where either oline play, QB play or other issues caused a missed TD here and there.
 
You'd keep a guy that doesn't score touchdowns over a decent QB?

LMFAO

Maybe the guy doesn't score TD's because he had the decent QB couldn't get him the ball? We KNOW Landry can get open, We KNOW Landry can catch, so why wouldn't he be able to score TD's I'm guessing there are other factors that contribute to his lack of TD's
 
I'm not ready to concede that Landry isn't a TD producer, I know the numbers aren't there but I'm not quite sure how much of that is his fault. Yesterday he was open in the endzone and Cutler just missed him. I'm sure there were plenty of times throughout the years here where either oline play, QB play or other issues caused a missed TD here and there.

Agreed, I was just giving the benefit of the doubt based on results as it is a results driven league.
 
Parker is nice and all, but he plays soft.

He isn't a top tier WR and will probably never be one. He's the WR equivalent of Ryan Tannehill.. All the skills and tools in the world but doesn't have the passion and leadership required to take it to the next level.

Honestly I think his skills anf tools are even a little ovsrexaggerated on this board. He has good size, but not elite. He has good speed, but not elite. He runs good routes, but not elite. He has good hands, but not elite.

I think Parker is a servicible #1, but ideally would be a #2 on a great offense. I hope he proves me wrong, but that's my impression going on year 3 now.
 
It's a tough spot. While I agree his position doesn't typically command the money he is seeking, there are always exceptions. The biggest issue is that he isn't much of a TD producer.

I do think people are undervaluing his worth to our team. I think losing him would be a death blow to this offense without replacing him with a top tier slot or TE talent.

If in the end it comes down to keeping Landry at a slightly bloated contract or keeping Tanny, Tanny has to go.
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