FinsNYanksFan13 said:
Yeah I will clarify....
Piece = An All Star
Wally = Over-paid shooter
Theo Ratliff = old and over-paid
Telfair = Another Marbury
Ryan Gomes = Has shown signs but isn't consistant. Could be a decent player in this league but that's still up in the air
Perkins = Hasn't shown any signs of improvement in his 4th year in the league now
Delonte West = Has a chance to be a player in this league. Not an All-Star but a guy who's a solid contributor.
Olowokandi = A bum, probably the worst # 1 pick of all time with Kwame
Allen = Has potential
Green = To young for me to comment yet, could become a player.
Rondo = A rookie who I won't comment on until he plays a full season
Al Jefferson = Has talent and could become a serious player in the league but he's out right now so he can't help them !
To me, this is a roster capable of maybe 30 wins. Everyone is killing Doc but I think getting 35 wins from the roster he had last year was a miracle. Now expecting him to win once again with average vets (aside from Pierce) and a bunch of kids is asking a ton. This team needs time, period, and all you Celtic fans whining for Doc's head are just looking for an excuse. I give the Celtics props because I think they've rebuilt the right way (with young guys) but at the end of THIS SEASON, you guys will be battling the Knicks for last place in the Atlantic no matter who the coach is. In the future, if even half of the kids on this roster pan out their going to be a scary team for a lot of years but right now, you Celtic fans saying they can hang with the Nets if they had a better coach are out of your minds. 35 wins was a ton last year and I see this years Celtics winning around 28!
Your player anaylsis is a little off.
Wally - yes he is over paid, but he is a good scorer and a good 3 point shooter. Last year he averaged about 19ppg, Jefferson averaged about 16.5. Yes jefferson is a better player, but better pure scorer? im sure.
Theo Ratliff- Old? yes, but a great shot blocker and a pretty good defender, yet Cliff Robinson is 40, but you guys say he is a good defender and provides quality depth :confused:
Telfair- How exactly is he another marbury?? marbury is a pure scorer and a ballhog, telfair is known for his handles, not his shot. How exactly are they the similiar? because they are both from NY? Telfair looked good this preseason and has always had alot of hype, i dont think he will be good, but hes not antoher marbury
Gomes- really improved last year after he was giving a chance to start (if i remember correctly, it was because of Al's injury), i will say though, we still don't know what he will become, but he could become a pretty good role player in this league, but the verdict is still out
Perkins- pretty accurate
West- Agreed
Kandi- Agreed, bum i hate him
Allen- agreed, he would be better in an offense that runs like crazy, because he is up near the top in the league in athletisicm, he is also a pretty decent defender
Green- agree, but his future looks real bright
Rondo- agree, but yet how can you say Marcus Williams is all this, but yet can't comment on Rondo
Al Jefferson- looked good in the first couple of games and came back this year really motivated, he is going to be a big determining factor in their season, they really could use his post presence
i think this roster has about 35-38 win potential with Doc as their coach, now you slam us for blaming Doc, we'll you guys are fortunate enough to have a coach, try going what is now i believe 3 seasons with him and you would hate him as well. I belive with a coach that can utilize their stregnths(athleticim) they could be a 42-45 win team this year and depending on how West, Allen, Green, Rondo, Telfair, etc play, basically the whole team except Wally and Pierce have reached their potential, their future next season and beyond is better then NJ, especially if Carter leaves and with kidd getting older.
EDIT: i just went back and read that it was Marino guy, not you that made the comments about marcus williams and cliff robinson