Jimmy James
You sit on a throne of lies!
Originally posted by Asphyx
Right they are known...They suck!
You think Top 10 QBs suck now? They're the known quantities. For every Tom Brady or Brett Favre, you have the McNairs, Mannings, McNabbs, Bledsoes, and Vicks. The yield for unknowns is low enough that you don't just go out and hope to hit the lottery. This goes double when you don't have one of the renowned QB creating systems. That's why we took Feeley from one of those systems, after all.
Lets stop crudding up the roster with KNOWN SUCKS and start getting in PROMISING UNKNOWNS...
A Promising UNKOWN can't be that much worse than a KNOWN SUCK!
See...this is where we have gotten to. This is our most fundamental point of contention. I won't argue too much if you want to suggest Jay sucks, but he is talented enough for me to not do what you suggest. I find it to be reckless. I don't think either of us is going to budge.
Do you only watch game you KNOW they won? your GMing froma frightened perspective...your more concerned about knowing what you will get than you are about sucking another year...
That's not what I'm suggesting at all. I want improvement, but I also want a safety net. That's what I think we have potential for with AJ and Jay. I think we could improve our chances with AJ, Jay, and somebody else replacing Sage.
Again so afraid of the unknown you want to cut a guy you have invested 2 years and haven't tested out yet in favor of a guy you have test driven for 4 years and has failed because he doesn't have the attibutes needed to succeed!
See, this is another point of contention. You seem to think that Sage is this unknown who I guess just hangs out and cashes a paycheck. I think the coaches have seen what Sage can do and are not impressed.
Funny but wasn't Sage supposed to be the guy who was going to be the replacement for Jay? Well when do you give him a chance to compete?
That is what he has been doing, and he has come up lacking. Otherwise, the team would likely be comfortable getting rid of Jay. That's enough for me to decide he should go if we can find somebody with promise.
And why not? Jay HAS failed...Sage has not...
Jay has succeeded in that he starts. Sage has failed in that he hasn't taken the job from Jay over that two year period. Are you really suggesting that if Sage was better than Jay, the team would keep him out of the action? I again state that if this is your opinion of the team, we have far greater problems than who is starting at QB.
We would still be a 10-6 team without jay...
See, this is another point of contention. I don't think Huard, Lucas, or Griese (when behind a line like the 2003 one) could lead this team to 10-6. That is Jay's value in my eyes.
Are you one of those people that has to get hit in the head with a hammer for half a decade before you realize HEY that hurts!
Why do you invite me to say snarky things about how I must be since I'm arguing with you?
Name the year Dan had a top 5 defense OR a 1800+ yard rusher and get back to us about how much he didn't do for us...
Hmm...1983...1990...1998...1999 (if you consider both yardage and points). Where is the trophy?
As far as rushing goes, the 1800 yard back is why we wouldn't need a Marino. Dan did get 1000+ from Karim in 1996, but there still wasn't a trophy.
Finally, it's important to note that Jay went 7-3 the one year he had 1800 yards from Ricky. I'm not blaming anybody for 7-3 and a broken bone injury.