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this would have been tannehill's breakout season

Does he come with the #2 defense in points allowed like they needed in '10 in order for the Packers to finally win a SB with Rodgers?

QBwinz


That was when their defense held opposing QBs to a measly 67.2 passer rating, the lowest of Rodgers's tenure.

So the smaller number of points they allowed was accomplished by defending against opposing quarterbacks at a very high level.

So again, "QBwinz," or whatever you want to call that, because the game comes down largely to either winning with your own QB, or making the opposing QB lose.
 
Considering that the only dynasties in modern NFL history have been quarterbacked by hall-of-famers (Bart Starr, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Jim Kelly, Troy Aikman, Tom Brady), your odds aren't good.

Or are you arguing that you're going to assemble an all-pro team around Tannehill, and ignore the constraints of the salary cap?

I don't think you understand how opinions work.

That aside, you put forth the challenge, so you put forth the conditions.
 
"New" guy. Suspiciously already knows how to hide his profile on Xenforo, but not "searched" data LOL.

With approx 85-88% of last 100 posts being specifically negative Tannehill-centric, it's obvious that he arrived with an agenda. Of course, it's his prerogative to have an opinion, but when evaluating it, and the data-manipulative way it's been conveniently formulated, Perspective & Context matter!

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Enough about RT till the offseason. He's done this year give credit to Cutler

I don't understand this mindset. Don't like it? Don't enter the thread. You saw the title as you entered it. You have options, telling people what to post is not one them.
 
People are already saying Tannehill is done in Miami.

Oh to be a week into the season and know what the next 15 hold in store.
 
Does he come with the #2 defense in points allowed like they needed in '10 in order for the Packers to finally win a SB with Rodgers?

QBwinz

You know I agree with you on the defense thing and especially with a finesse team but let's not pretend that Aaron Rogers isn't an upgrade over anything Miami's had in years.
 
You know I agree with you on the defense thing and especially with a finesse team but let's not pretend that Aaron Rogers isn't an upgrade over anything Miami's had in years.

Certainly, and by far. But all this QBwinz talk is so ironic being that even modern day and future HOF QB's like Brady and Rodgers have only won SB's with top 5 defensive play.
 
Qb is still by far the most important position on the field. It's most evident when you need to compare 11 players(the defense) to one player (the qb)
 
Qb is still by far the most important position on the field. It's most evident when you need to compare 11 players(the defense) to one player (the qb)

Yes, QB is the most important but no QBs are winning in this league without 1) a good HC, 2) a competent offensive line, 3) a competent RB for run/pass balance and respectability of a run threat to the defense, and 4) no one wins a SB without a top defense.
 
Qb is still by far the most important position on the field. It's most evident when you need to compare 11 players(the defense) to one player (the qb)


And those 11 other players (the defense) stand to help the team a great deal more by defending the pass well, than by defending the run well, which again means that how the QB on the opposing team plays and is defended is of utmost importance.
 
Yes, QB is the most important but no QBs are winning in this league without 1) a good HC, 2) a competent offensive line, 3) a competent RB for run/pass balance and respectability of a run threat to the defense, and 4) no one wins a SB without a top defense.


The problem with that sort of thinking is that it's difficult to determine when QB play makes all of those other parts of a team look good or bad, rather than their being good or bad independent of the QB.

Take any offensive line that's associated for example with a typical rookie QB who has lots of trouble sustaining drives and scoring points. That offensive line is going to be exploited by opposing defensive lines that enjoy a big lead on the scoreboard and get to tee off on a QB who's forced to pass to mount a comeback. They don't have to stay more on their heels out of respect for the run game at all, because there is no run game when a team is down big on the scoreboard.

Is the offensive line the problem there, or the quarterback?
 
And those 11 other players (the defense) stand to help the team a great deal more by defending the pass well, than by defending the run well, which again means that how the QB on the opposing team plays and is defended is of utmost importance.

Absolutely. I forget the site but they showed data showing the correlation of super bowl winning teams and passer rating differential. Teams were in the top 2 or 3 in that dept. You don't have to have the better qb, your qb just has to play better than the opposing qb which can be dictated by cb play and pass rush. Obviously the better the qb you have the better the odds yours will play better.
 
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But think about what you're saying there. The other four of the top-five defenses every year don't win Super Bowls.

But think about what you're saying there. The other four of the top-five QB's every year don't win Super Bowls.
 
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