And there was a point in both Ray and Zach's careers the case could have been made that Zach was better. It certainly didn't end that way with Lewis clearly out-pacing Thomas but there was a time it was a coin flip.
No you don't get slack for it. The Hall of Fame is the Hall of Fame, no asterisk because Cam wasn't good enough coming out of college to play in the NFL and it took him longer to get to the NFL which in turn means he has lesser stats. It's not necessarily a fault, it's just reality. You either have the numbers or don't to get into the hall of fame, Cam doesn't and probably due to his age never will.
Why isn't Doug Flutie in the Hall of Fame?Then should his CFL stats count?
In that case he has well over 100 sacks.
As people said above, it is the Pro Football HOF.
I still think if he reaches 100+ sacks he should be considered.
It's tough to say that when Zach Thomas isn't even in lol Laughable
Why isn't Doug Flutie in the Hall of Fame?
At one time Flutie was considered the greatest CFL player of all-time, that should weigh heavily in a "pro football" hall of fame. I don't believe Canton gives much weight if any to time spent in the CFL. I think Warren Moon, who is the only player in Canton and the CFL Hall of fame, is an outlier and any accomplishments that compare him and Wake are useless.Based off being a Professional football player he probably should be.
Maybe voters take into account his NFL career wasn't even close to what he did in Canada.
Wake has performed at a high level in both leagues and still is at age 35. (See no slowing down either)
Flutie has a NFL career 76 Qb rating. Wake averages 10 sacks a season.
Wake was leading the league with 7 sacks in week 7 two years ago when he went down just to come back and have more sacks than the DPOY.
Wake has as many All-pro seasons as JT. (4) And one less pro bowl (5)
At one time Flutie was considered the greatest CFL player of all-time, that should weigh heavily in a "pro football" hall of fame. I don't believe Canton gives much weight if any to time spent in the CFL. I think Warren Moon, who is the only player in Canton and the CFL Hall of fame, is an outlier and any accomplishments that compare him and Wake are useless.
Cam Wake has 1 int in his entire career and zero TD's. JT had 9 TD's and 8 ints.
I agree with that.
I do believe they look at the drop off Flutie had coming into the "Real" league.
Wake has dominated in the NFL. I think that's the difference.
It's a shame time could be a reason Wake doesn't make the HOF even though he has damn near the same accomplishments as JT who said himself Wake is a better player. ( I don't agree but Wake is a better pass rusher and has one of the best first steps and bend I've ever seen)
JT and Wake share the same amount of ALL Pros (4)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press_NFL_Defensive_Player_of_the_Year_Award
I would strongly disagree with that. DPOY is also no small accomplishment. Look at this list of NFL DPOY awards. 99% of them are HOFers or they will be.
JT also hold the NFL record for the FF scoring I mentioned above.
Michael Strahan 24 FF's, 3 TD
JT 46 FF's, 9 TD
JT has 3 safeties. Wake has 1. If the site I am using is correct, JT has 3 All-Pro's and Wake has 1. JT also has NFL defensive MVP.
These are huge discrepancies.