Why Not Ryan Mallet???

[MisiDressing]

Mallett will blow up Ryan Leaf style

If he does, so be it, that's how SD got back to the top of the draft and ended up drafting LT2 and Brees. I don't care if we bust. We gotta at least try. We haven't taken a QB in round 1 since 19-f'n-83!!!!!!!!

 

[Aqua and Orange]

If Mallet is available at 15, our front office will pass on him for sure because they don't have the guts to pick a QB be in the 1st rd. They will draft some rag armed bench warmer in the 3rd Rd because they think it's safer. I think we go OL, TE, DL, CB or LB in the 1st Rd and then mostly offense the rest of the draft.

I concur. This team is infuriating with its fear of making a strong choice in the draft at QB.

 

[zerodev]

Agree

I think Mallett could be worth the risk. At the very worst, we'll still have Chad Henne. At best... who knows how good he could be? If the Dolphins can find a way to trade down and still grab him, I would do it.

 

[Canadi-Phin]

I understand everyone likes his throws but there is a feeling by some he hurt himself at the combine.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/37462/60/2011-combine-risers--and--fallers?pg=2

"Combine's Biggest Fallers

1. Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett

Mallett impressed in Combine throwing drills against no pass rush, but everyone knows he can spin it. What hurt Mallett was his media interview, which has been described as a "train wreck" more than once and will be replayed over and over leading up to the draft. Mallett needed to go to Indianapolis poised, confident, and truthful, and in a public setting proved nowhere near ready to be a leader. FOX Sports' Adam Caplan has dropped the strong-armed passer to sixth in his latest quarterback rankings, and it wouldn't be surprising to see Mallett fall all the way to the third round.

Mallett's measurables: 6'7/253, 34 3/8" arms, refused to run forty and shuttles, 8'7" broad jump"

or this one

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/fee.../story/a-look-back-combine-winners-and-losers

. Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas. He was solid throwing the ball but didn't "wow" anyone. And he bombed his media session and team interviews, coming off as someone who can't handle adversity or a leadership role. He created more questions at the Combine rather than answer them.

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2011-01/2011-nfl-draft/story/a-look-back-combine-winners-and-losers#ixzz1FSETtYC3​

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

I understand everyone likes his throws but there is a feeling by some he hurt himself at the combine.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/37462/60/2011-combine-risers--and--fallers?pg=2

"Combine's Biggest Fallers

1. Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett

Mallett impressed in Combine throwing drills against no pass rush, but everyone knows he can spin it. What hurt Mallett was his media interview, which has been described as a "train wreck" more than once and will be replayed over and over leading up to the draft. Mallett needed to go to Indianapolis poised, confident, and truthful, and in a public setting proved nowhere near ready to be a leader. FOX Sports' Adam Caplan has dropped the strong-armed passer to sixth in his latest quarterback rankings, and it wouldn't be surprising to see Mallett fall all the way to the third round.

Mallett's measurables: 6'7/253, 34 3/8" arms, refused to run forty and shuttles, 8'7" broad jump"

The only thing wrong with Mallett's interview with the media was that he cut it short. All he had to do was keep sitting there smiling saying the same thing over and over again for another few minutes if they were just going to keep asking the same question over and over again. You have to be comfortable in your own skin if you're going to be a quarterback in the NFL and deal with hackjob journalists asking you repetitive stupid questions...

The media targeted Ryan Mallett as their whipping boy for this year a long time ago when the drug rumors first surfaced.. The only thing that REALLY matters is how he addressed with his potential future employers... not any of those pencil neck media twerps who are only looking to set him up to knock him down later to attract readers..

The media began to think they're owed the truth regarding everyone's lives years ago.... when the fact is they're not owed a damn thing. If you don't give them anything information wise to use against you in the future, they're "taking you off their draft board"... as if their draft board is somehow worth the paper it's written on the first place...

Nobody in the media is going to be giving Ryan Mallett a job or signing his paychecks...

Sportswriters for the most part have become the lowest species of breathing life forms on the planet... worse than anything most of these kids have ever done, or will ever become...

 

[Mr. Magoo]

The only thing wrong with Mallett's interview with the media was that he cut it short. All he had to do was keep sitting there smiling saying the same thing over and over again for another few minutes if they were just going to keep asking the same question over and over again. You have to be comfortable in your own skin if you're going to be a quarterback in the NFL and deal with hackjob journalists asking you repetitive stupid questions...

The media targeted Ryan Mallett as their whipping boy for this year a long time ago when the drug rumors first surfaced.. The only thing that REALLY matters is how he addressed with his potential future employers... not any of those pencil neck media twerps who are only looking to set him up to knock him down later to attract readers..

The media began to think they're owed the truth regarding everyone's lives years ago.... when the fact is they're not owed a damn thing. If you don't give them anything information wise to use against you in the future, they're "taking you off their draft board"... as if their draft board is somehow worth the paper it's written on the first place...

Nobody in the media is going to be giving Ryan Mallett a job or signing his paychecks...

Sportswriters for the most part have become the lowest species of breathing life forms on the planet... worse than anything most of these kids have ever done, or will ever become...

The legal standard of "significant public interest" has been stretched to include pretty much any kind of question anyone wants answered about a public figure, which Ryan Mallett is. Public figures are not considered to have the same protections of their privacy and against libel as regular people because as a virtue of their position in society a celebrity has a forum from which to respond to anything that's said about them. And it's not a new thing. Joseph Pulitzer, after whom the highest prize in journalism is named, invented the style of journalism that eventually led to the supermarket tabloid. People like to believe this is all a new thing, but conduct of journalists throughout American history has not really changed all that much. When Andrew Jackson ran for president, journalists on the payroll of his political opponents accused his wife, in the parlance of the day, of being a whore.

Either way, there's absolutely no point in blaming sportwriters for what they write. Newspapers are a dying lot, and more than ever they're on a desperate, desperate search for readers. They write the stories the mass of people want to read. As journalism has become more reactive to people, it's inevitably become dumber, which shouldn't be a shock to anyone.

People want to blame what they see on TV or read in newspapers or see in the movies on someone else, when the reality is it's just a reflection of our own worst selves.

 

[Roonnette]

Mallett's measurables: 6'7/253, 34 3/8" arms, refused to run forty and shuttles, 8'7" broad jump"

Great measurable, and 34" arms are great for a 6'-7" QB. Add to that 10-3/4" hands, almost 11".

Now forget measurables and look at stats. 32 TD, 12 ints, 25 sacks, last year 30 TDs 7 int, 24 sacks. played against LSU, Alabama, SEC competition, you know the guys who are going 1st to 3rd round on defense.

Great track record, great everywhere he played. To cap it off, he had a great combine throwing, can make every throw with a live arm.

What else does a man have to do?

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

The legal standard of "significant public interest" has been stretched to include pretty much any kind of question anyone wants answered about a public figure, which Ryan Mallett is. Public figures are not considered to have the same protections of their privacy and against libel as regular people because as a virtue of their position in society a celebrity has a forum from which to respond to anything that's said about them. And it's not a new thing. Joseph Pulitzer, after whom the highest prize in journalism is named, invented the style of journalism that eventually led to the supermarket tabloid. People like to believe this is all a new thing, but conduct of journalists throughout American history has not really changed all that much. When Andrew Jackson ran for president, journalists on the payroll of his political opponents accused his wife, in the parlance of the day, of being a whore.

Either way, there's absolutely no point in blaming sportwriters for what they write. Newspapers are a dying lot, and more than ever they're on a desperate, desperate search for readers. They write the stories the mass of people want to read. As journalism has become more reactive to people, it's inevitably become dumber, which shouldn't be a shock to anyone.

People want to blame what they see on TV or read in newspapers or see in the movies on someone else, when the reality is it's just a reflection of our own worst selves.

The point is Ryan Mallett isn't obligated to talk about any of the drug issues with the media, even though they act like he is. They never even asked him a question regarding the drug "issues" that require a simple yes or no answer. They were leaving him open ended questions in which they could take whatever he said and spin into an "angle".... to attract readers...

Anyone that thinks it would've been a good idea for Ryan Mallett to disclose any of the details of that potentially brief and dark period of his life in front of a bunch of hacks with a notepad and a tape recorder is being ridiculous. This is a kid who has FAMILY... who has parents, etc..

None of them deserve their name to be subjected to the "public" humiliation and ridicule that was sure to follow if Mallett stands up there and discusses it in front of the media... doesn't matter how minor or major the drug issue was...

The only thing that matters is how he discussed it among the NFL teams that interviewed him. He told the media all they needed to know...period.

He just needed to keep doing it for a few more minutes...

 

[j-off-her-doll]

The legal standard of "significant public interest" has been stretched to include pretty much any kind of question anyone wants answered about a public figure, which Ryan Mallett is. Public figures are not considered to have the same protections of their privacy and against libel as regular people because as a virtue of their position in society a celebrity has a forum from which to respond to anything that's said about them. And it's not a new thing. Joseph Pulitzer, after whom the highest prize in journalism is named, invented the style of journalism that eventually led to the supermarket tabloid. People like to believe this is all a new thing, but conduct of journalists throughout American history has not really changed all that much. When Andrew Jackson ran for president, journalists on the payroll of his political opponents accused his wife, in the parlance of the day, of being a whore.

Either way, there's absolutely no point in blaming sportwriters for what they write. Newspapers are a dying lot, and more than ever they're on a desperate, desperate search for readers. They write the stories the mass of people want to read. As journalism has become more reactive to people, it's inevitably become dumber, which shouldn't be a shock to anyone.

People want to blame what they see on TV or read in newspapers or see in the movies on someone else, when the reality is it's just a reflection of our own worst selves.

Yup. This way in every venue. Remember art? The 21st Century doesn't. Good luck running into someone who prefers a good - or even decent beer - to a Bud Light. Good luck running into someone who even knows who Charles Mingus, Willie Johnson, Eric Dolphy or Skip James are. Heck, good luck coming across someone who knows who Lou Reed is. How many people do you know at work who search out good local eateries as opposed to McDonald's? Basically, the more you give the general populace a say (they vote with their wallets), the worse things get on the whole. As a disclaimer, I'm not speaking of politics. That's a give-and-take that would take hours to discuss, and you're talking about currency as opposed to taste.

 

[j-off-her-doll]

To Slimm's point, though, I agree. Mallett's media interview sounded fine. I wasn't aware he cut it short. That's not good, but it's not a huge deal. Mallett's body worries me a bit. He obviously doesn't work on it much at all - if at all. I'm more worried about him coming in and training like a professional than I am Newton. I'd still take him if he's there at 15. Also, with the assumption that he isn't putting the necessary work in on his body, there's some upside with his quickness is the pocket (not that he's atrocious now) and maybe even a little breaking the pocket (not that he'll ever be Newton.

 

[Mr. Magoo]

The point is Ryan Mallett isn't obligated to talk about any of the drug issues with the media, even though they act like he is. They never even asked him a question regarding the drug "issues" that require a simple yes or no answer. They were leaving him open ended questions in which they could take whatever he said and spin into an "angle".... to attract readers...

Anyone that thinks it would've been a good idea for Ryan Mallett to disclose any of the details of that potentially brief and dark period of his life in front of a bunch of hacks with a notepad and a tape recorder is being ridiculous. This is a kid who has FAMILY... who has parents, etc..

None of them deserve their name to be subjected to the "public" humiliation and ridicule that was sure to follow if Mallett stands up there and discusses it in front of the media... doesn't matter how minor or major the drug issue was...

The only thing that matters is how he discussed it among the NFL teams that interviewed him. He told the media all they needed to know...period.

He just needed to keep doing it for a few more minutes...

The people decide what they "want to know," and then journalists go out and try to get it for them. That's the relationship. So as long as people are interested in the rumors of Ryan Mallett's supposed drug use, he'll face questions about it. That's the way the system is set up, and Ryan Mallett has chosen of his own free will to pursue a career in the public eye.

His agents and PR people should have had him better prepared, as there are strategies and word choices he could have used that would have prevented much of this fallout. Admitting to "mistakes," and then not elaborating, for one (which he hasn't done). Saying "these things are in my past." "I think we've all done things we're not proud of." "I'm not a perfect person." Etc etc. That's what you say if at least some of it is true. And if it's not, then you get up there and ****ing deny it.

It's not a matter of "obligation," it's just what you do if you're smart. Pretending as if the issue is just going to go away if you don't answer questions about it doesn't work. And at minimum, the people Mallett has hired to help him through this process should have known that. This whole thing is their failure as much as it's anyone's.

What seems pretty clear to me is that the story -- whatever it is -- is bound to come out eventually. The teams likely have the story already, and whoever talked to them is eventually going to talk to someone in the media. And as the history of these kinds of things have shown, the later it comes out, the worse it's going to be... the more pressure there's going to be on Front Offices to take the guy off their board for fear of a public relations backlash. It's always better if you have control of it, can choose how it comes out, can be there to help form people's opinions before they become concrete.

The worst thing that could happen to Ryan Mallett from a public relations standpoint is for SI to come out with an 8,000 word story a week before the draft confirming everyone and anyone's worst fears about what he's done, with people from his past spinning off stories, real or imagined, that don't match Mallett's version of events. It'd be a godawful ****storm.

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

The people decide what they "want to know," and then journalists go out and try to get it for them. That's the relationship. So as long as people are interested in the rumors of Ryan Mallett's supposed drug use, he'll face questions about it. That's the way the system is set up, and Ryan Mallett has chosen of his own free will to pursue a career in the public eye.

His agents and PR people should have had him better prepared, as there are strategies and word choices he could have used that would have prevented much of this fallout. Admitting to "mistakes," and then not elaborating, for one (which he hasn't done). Saying "these things are in my past." "I think we've all done things we're not proud of." "I'm not a perfect person." Etc etc. That's what you say if at least some of it is true. And if it's not, then you get up there and ****ing deny it.

It's not a matter of "obligation," it's just what you do if you're smart. Pretending as if the issue is just going to go away if you don't answer questions about it doesn't work. And at minimum, the people Mallett has hired to help him through this process should have known that. This whole thing is their failure as much as it's anyone's.

What seems pretty clear to me is that the story -- whatever it is -- is bound to come out eventually. The teams likely have the story already, and whoever talked to them is eventually going to talk to someone in the media. And as the history of these kinds of things have shown, the later it comes out, the worse it's going to be... the more pressure there's going to be on Front Offices to take the guy off their board for fear of a public relations backlash. It's always better if you have control of it, can choose how it comes out, can be there to help form people's opinions before they become concrete.

The worst thing that could happen to Ryan Mallett from a public relations standpoint is for SI to come out with an 8,000 word story a week before the draft confirming everyone and anyone's worst fears about what he's done, with people from his past spinning off stories, real or imagined, that don't match Mallett's version of events.

That's the point... nothing he could've said up there in front of the media changes his past. So there's no point in denying it, especially if he knows there's some truth to it. No reason to lie about it...

The issue isn't going away, but if the guy says he's not going to talk about it to the media, he's not going to talk about it. Either be satisfied with that answer and ask some different questions, or there's really no point in continuing to stand there in front of the microphone...

People can be interested in the drug rumors all they want, doesn't mean they deserve the details of it. The same people that are so interested in it, would have a completely different perspective if it was their past that was the line of questioning, or their son's, etc..

His potential employers is all that matters...

If all the sportswriters have to knock you down "their" draft board is the way you chose not to answer the questions that they don't deserve the answers to anyway... you did just fine.

 

[Mr. Magoo]

Yup. This way in every venue. Remember art? The 21st Century doesn't. Good luck running into someone who prefers a good - or even decent beer - to a Bud Light. Good luck running into someone who even knows who Charles Mingus, Willie Johnson, Eric Dolphy or Skip James are. Heck, good luck coming across someone who knows who Lou Reed is. How many people do you know at work who search out good local eateries as opposed to McDonald's? Basically, the more you give the general populace a say (they vote with their wallets), the worse things get on the whole. As a disclaimer, I'm not speaking of politics. That's a give-and-take that would take hours to discuss, and you're talking about currency as opposed to taste.

It's a basic truth that the more deeply something speaks to you, the greater chance it has to be completely lost on someone else. More often than not, those things go hand in hand.

The examples of things considered to have "artistic worth" that also speak to the masses are few and far between: The Beatles, Casablanca, Frank Lloyd Wright, Monet. It's just not very often that the Billboard #1 album and the top rated album on Pitchfork.com are one and the same. That site is driven so much on exclusivity and cultural elitism it wouldn't be able to function in a world in which that was possible anyway.

Case in point: as a fan of jazz and blues (which I gather from your interest in Mingus, James and co), what's today considered "indie rock" probably doesn't interest you all that much, yet it means a lot to some people. Thirty years from now, guys like me will wonder why no one remembers Wilco, the Dandy Warhols, Elliott Smith or The Mars Volta... just as you probably wonder how anyone could have gone through life without hearing "Dark Was the Night, Cold Was the Ground."

 

[3rdandinches]

Who cares how he did in an interview with the media, what on earth has that got to do with football? When he's drafted and winning the only questions from the media will be about his game not some stupid college rumour. I don't get why people have to have something against a person no matter how insignificant it is. Again this has nothing to do with how he would perform on the field, if you want to argue that he's too much of a statue in the pocket then at least it's football related even if it's still wrong!

 

[zerodev]

My take on Mallett

This is what I wrote on Mallet:

QB Ryan Mallett, Arkansas

The mercurial quarterback has been compared to Ryan Leaf for his “edge”, to put it nicely. True, Mallett’s off-field concerns and poor interviewing skills are red flags, but all this does is sink his draft stock enough for the Dolphins to grab him when he was a top-10 pick candidate two months ago. If there is any truth to these disturbing allegations, though, then I would not touch him with a goalpost.

Before his alleged off-the-field troubles began, Mallett was touted as a top QB prospect alongside Cam Newton and Jake Locker. At 6’7”, Mallett is bigger than the likes of Cam Newton and Ben Roethlisberger, and he has the tools to be a good quarterback at the next level. He was arguably the class of the Combine at the position, but despite that he might fall into the second round. The Arkansas quarterback steadily improved each year he played in college, posting some great numbers in 2010 including 65% accuracy playing in the SEC, one of the more important statistics for a QB prospect. He is also a former Michigan man, which could help him get over the hump in the eyes of Dolphins ownership.

Round 2, Pick 4 (from Denver): QB Ryan Mallett, Arkansas

Trading all the way out of the first round, the Dolphins gain a second rounder they did not have. The Dolphins have had little luck drafting a quarterback in the second round (Pat White, Chad Henne) or trading a second-rounder to get one (A.J. Feeley) over the years. The draft is a craps shoot, especially at the QB position, though, so you have to think they would eventually get lucky, right? If – and that is a big “if” – Mallett does fall out of the first round a la Jimmy Clausen, I think this would be a steal for the Dolphins. Of course, the Dolphins might have to trade back up a little to get him because two of the first three teams in the second round could use a franchise QB as well. Mallett is a big prospect with a lot of the tools it takes to succeed at the next level despite some character questions, and the Dolphins need a franchise quarterback. Plus he would be playing with an Aaron Rodgers-sized chip on his shoulder.

The dude had a bad interview. If people were saying you were on coke, would you be happy about it? Like I said, if the rumors are at all true, then the Dolphins should absolutely stay away, but he is talented and could be great at the next level. If we're not going to grab Newton or Gabbert, why not try drafting Mallett?