Doesn't matter whether you are 16 year old fan who watches lots of film and analyzes players or a high paid talent evaluator who cut Cam Wake from the Giants organization and roster, you cant measure heart or whats in a players head.
Strongly disagree. Plus he wasn't "surprisingly effective, by the numbers." You do realize he had 5 sacks last year? And they came againt Tennessee Tech, Arizona State, Washington State, and Fresno State?
I don't know what you wrote here, but I'm not allowed to view links until I write 10 posts
The low man wins in football! You will not find a scout that believes anything to the contrary! You are taught as a lineman to hit the opposing lineman right underneath their shoulder pads when you engage in a block, then use your legs to drive him back, at least with the bull rush and defending the run. Jordan is too tall to do this effectively. However, height is perceived as an advantage because long arms are an excellent advantage, and there is a correlation between height and arm length. However, Jordan has the arms of a guy who is about 6'4 3/4 inches tall. So his height really simply ends up being a disadvantage as a pass rusher (though it gives him potential as a guy to stop the Gronkowski's of the world in coverage.)
The low man wins in football! You will not find a scout that believes anything to the contrary! You are taught as a lineman to hit the opposing lineman right underneath their shoulder pads when you engage in a block, then use your legs to drive him back, at least with the bull rush and defending the run. Jordan is too tall to do this effectively. However, height is perceived as an advantage because long arms are an excellent advantage, and there is a correlation between height and arm length. However, Jordan has the arms of a guy who is about 6'4 3/4 inches tall. So his height really simply ends up being a disadvantage as a pass rusher (though it gives him potential as a guy to stop the Gronkowski's of the world in coverage.)
They say the low man wins in football.
Don't worry. Youre debating CK. You will get there in a few min. And I will run out of popcorn.
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Low man wins IF low man can get their hands on the other player.
What happens when Jordan blows right by a guy on his way to the QB?
"The low man wins in football" is an axiom that does not apply the way you think it does. The NFL likes big players. Otherwise the NFL would be selecting for short players. They're not. They like tall players with good pad level. Dion Jordan is tall, with long arms (34 inches is long, regardless of what you think), and the NFL loves that.
When NFL scouts and coaches praise a player's "length" they are not just talking about his arm length. They're talking about his height. Height can make you harder to block in pass rush. Shorter guys can get pushed to the ground.
But you go ahead and find me the scout that says Dion Jordan's body dimensions are a negative.
For one, there are plenty of guys who got more time than Jordan in Oregon's front seven (Taylor Hart). I usually see him subbed out on likely rushing downs, and for good reason. I think it's a bit worrisome that he got subbed out so much. He really got subbed out more than most of Oregon's front 7. Also, that whole coverage thing is entirely overblown. People saw him take like, 6 snaps as a nickelback in the third quarter in I believe the Stanford game (don't even remember), and Jordan defenders acted like he spent half his plays in coverage. I'd say it was about 80% rushing, 20% coverage
But see, that's the only thing he can do right now as a pass rusher. He's a one trick pony. All an offensive tackle has to do is lengthen his split a bit and get a good kick slide.Don't worry. Youre debating CK. You will get there in a few min. And I will run out of popcorn.
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Low man wins IF low man can get their hands on the other player.
What happens when Jordan blows right by a guy on his way to the QB?
But see, that's the only thing he can do right now as a pass rusher. He's a one trick pony. All an offensive tackle has to do is lengthen his split a bit and get a good kick slide.
But see, that's the only thing he can do right now as a pass rusher. He's a one trick pony. All an offensive tackle has to do is lengthen his split a bit and get a good kick slide.
Why on God's green earth has this ****ing thread been revived? Look kid..... If in 3 years Dion Jordan is a total bust with no sacks and is out of the league and you have to shave regularly......Then come back here and tell everyone "I told you so". Until then, to be honest, why would anyone listen to you? And more importantly, why would anyone on this site care about your opinion of the # 3 overall draft pick in this years draft? You're 17...... And I respect that you have an opinion, but your opinion is NOT shared by 95% of NFL scouts. Some of those guys have been scouting football players since you were an itch in your fathers pants.
If you want to be taken seriously on this board, come here with someone you "scouted" that went in the late rounds of the 2010 draft and is now a star. Show us how in depth your scouting knowledge is....... Because I really don't give a **** what some kid writes between his spelling test and recess.
But see, that's the only thing he can do right now as a pass rusher. He's a one trick pony. All an offensive tackle has to do is lengthen his split a bit and get a good kick slide.