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A Tale Of Two Cities - San Francisco and Miami

MrChadRico said:
He follows YOU around?... this is his thread you're posting in šŸ˜† šŸ¤£ šŸ˜‚
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Yes, he follows me. Like when he interjected into my conversation with another poster in this thread, asking what he always asks, to have me make a stupid prediction about how many playoff games we are going to win.
 
One team has a good FO which equals drafting well and the other doesn't which equals having to rely on mercenaries every year. That's it in a nutshell.

It's all smoke and mirrors if you draft like ass. Welcome to the fun house that's engulfed in flames.
 
BobDole said:
One team has a good FO which equals drafting well and the other doesn't which equals having to rely on mercenaries every year. That's it in a nutshell.

It's all smoke and mirrors if you draft like ass. Welcome to the fun house that's engulfed in flames.
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The Niners haven't drafted like ass the last 4 years?

The Dominic Puni pick last year was a good one.
 
The Ghost said:
Yes, he follows me. Like when he interjected into my conversation with another poster in this thread, asking what he always asks, to have me make a stupid prediction about how many playoff games we are going to win.
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Are you complaining about being outnumbered?!?!

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I've known how that's felt for years bud!

Welcome to the party!
 
The Ghost said:
The only thing we know for sure is that Robbie Anderson slipped and wasn't where he was intended to be, which is right in front of that DB. If you want to pretend that one is on Tua, fine, but to me that's absolute non-sense.

Now I'll ask a follow up question, what would you have said if Tua just taken a 15 yard loss on a sack instead of throwing the third "INT", instead of as you said, just throwing the ball straight in the air?
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I would've said that was a smart decision because we could've punted and possibly held although our defense was swiss cheese that game. Instead it was a pick 6.
 
phinsforlife said:
Both went all in to try and win a SB. Both run the Shanahan system. Shanahan is there, and a Shanahan guy is here. Both have small-ish QBs. Both had the highly paid WRs and the dominant offenses (for some period of time). That is where the similarities end.

The 49ers made deep playoff runs, including 2 SB appearances in the last 6 years. The Dolphins none, not a single playoff win.

Just prior, going back to 2011, the 49ers were also making deep playoff runs, and went to a SB as well. It didn't work out, they blew it up, went to the bottom, and built the whole thing right back up successfully to the point that in only 6 more years they were right back to the SB. The Dolphins for the last 25 years go nowhere, blow it up, and then go nowhere all over again.

Now it seems to have come undone for both teams again, but history repeats, and both teams seem to be handling things very differently. San Fran looks to be biting the bullet, making the hard choices, and starting over. Miami seems to be extending and pretending, once again.

Here is a list of what San Fran has done this off-season, they are clearly making the hard decision and breaking the whole thing down again rather than trying to extend and pretend mediocrity: https://ninernoise.com/49ers-free-a...-signings-departures-and-updates-01jnrt9n3t8n

They traded the aging and under-performing Deebo Samuel away while he still had some value. Today, they just told Brandon Aiyuk to go pound sand and seek a trade. We did the opposite and handed out big new deals for our guys, including the old one with a bad attitude (Tyreek), and we are still sitting on both of them with $60mm a year tied up in the position while we have massive roster holes elsewhere. The 49ers let a lot of their higher priced older guys walk in FA (like Dre Greenlaw), we give Jalen Ramsey a big new deal.

Most importantly, let's see what they do with Brock Purdy. Forget what you or I think, the broad view in the NFL is that Purdy and Tua are roughly equivalent QBs. Personally, I would take Purdy over Tua hands down. More durable, better scrambler, and more of a gamer. He has held up against better teams, and he has won playoff games and gone to a SB (4-2 career playoff record).

My strong suspicion is the 49ers will not just roll over and give him a 5 year contract at $55mm a year just because he is their starting QB. They will come up with numbers ($ and term) that are substantially lower, and tell him to take it or leave it. If the 49ers don't think they can get a deal done with him at something close to their numbers, they will part ways.

The 49ers are just a much more well run organization. They have discipline, and they make tough decisions, and they are the better talent evaluators as well. The proof is in the pudding. Their approach works, ours does not.
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You make legitimate points.

HOWEVER, for one who says that the only acceptable goal is a Super Bowl win?

The Niners' Super Bowl win drought was old enough to drink a beer a decade ago, can now rent a car, and will be able to run for President pretty soon.

Let's not pretend they've been stacking up Lombardis with their "far superior system," mkay?
 
phinsforlife said:
You people are beyond me. 3 SB appearances in the last 12 years, Miami not a single playoff win in 24 years. And you see no difference? I guess your rose colored glasses are quite opaque
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Thank you for this and your post. Good comparison between the 2 organizations. John Lynch is light-years ahead of McGrier as a GM.
 
The Ghost said:
The Niners haven't drafted like ass the last 4 years?

The Dominic Puni pick last year was a good one.
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They haven't had many picks -- like 1 a few years ago iirc -- because of bad trades but they were already stocked with drafted talent ... which they are in the process of unloading and starting all over again.

Even when they do dumb **** like trade multiple firsts for a bum QB, they have a FO that can hedge bets and find a worthy QB at the end of the 7th.

There's no argument about which FO is better ... which is the crucial difference between the two teams.
 
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