all time nfl team

[FuturePhin]

QB-Dan Marino
RB-Barry Sanders
FB-Larry Csonka
TE-Tony Gonzalaz(sp)
WR-Randy Moss
WR-Terrell Owens
WR-Jerry Rice
LT-Orlando Pace
LG-Larry Allen
C-Olin Krutez
RG-Gene Upshaw
RT-J. Gross as my shocker..lol I like him. I think he'll do great things.

DE-Deacon Jones
DT-Warren Sapp
DT- Joe Greene
DE-Reggie White
LB-Junior Seau
MLB-Dick Butkus
LB-Lawrence Taylor
CB-Sam Madison
CB-Deion Sanders
FS-Ed Reed(not sure/fs/ss
SS-Jeff Lynch

 

[gofins]

Dan Marino??? You lose all credibility right there. The only way he's #1 is if we're talking about the MOST OVERRATED list.

Um ok:shakeno:

 

[gofins]

What do these numbers mean to you???

29 of 50 for 318 yds, 1 TD, 2 Int's..........67 Rating..........LOSS (SF 38-16)
20 of 48 for 248 yds, 2 TD, 2 Int's..........55 Rating..........LOSS (NE 31-14)
23 of 49 for 323 yds, 3 TD, 2 Int's..........72 Rating..........LOSS (Buf 44-34)
22 of 45 for 268 yds, 1 TD, 2 Int's..........57 Rating..........LOSS (Buf 29-10)
17 of 43 for 141 yds, 0 TD, 2 Int's..........29 Rating..........LOSS (NE 17-3)
26 of 37 for 243 yds, 0 TD, 2 Int's.........65 Rating..........LOSS (Den 38-3)
11 of 25 for 95 yds, 1 TD, 2 Int's..........35 Rating...............LOSS (Jac 62-7)
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TOTALS:
148 of 297 (48.9%) for 1636, 8 TD, 14 Int's..........56 QB Rating

Looks like you did a good job of hand picking games to use as a reference.
Just means Dan couldn't do it by himself.

 

[unifiedtheory]

Aikman??? That's even worse than Marino. I think Aikman threw 20 TD's ONCE in his entire career. Aikman is without a doubt the most OVERRATED QB OF ALL TIME.

Aikman has three rings...according to your arguement RINGS is all that matters so your point about him being overrated is moot. According to you Marino was a scrub because he had some bad playoff games (does'nt help when the opposing team knows you have to throw it everydown) but at the same time Aikman is a scrub as well even though he was clutch in the postseason. You are contradicting yourself.

It is fairly apparent you don't think highly of Dan Marino. To call him an overrated q.b. who was all about stats is comepletely uneducated and VERY false.

Big Ben was AMAZING in his prime and unlike some of the other names on that list, he could catch and block. The guy had the BIGGEST and softest hands I've ever seen. I stand by my selection of putting him 3rd. In truth, at his best he may have been the best ever. Still, the Hall of Fame is based on longevity as much as anything else, so he'll probably never get in. He only played for, I don't know, 8 years???

The Hall is not entirely based on longevity. High level players who have shorter careers still get in (see Gale Sayers). That arguement is also moot when it comes to tight ends. Kellen Winslow's career was shortened by injury but he is in the Hall and widely regarded as the best to ever play the position.

Coates had some good years but when you are talking about the best of all time at a given position he just does not make the grade.

This might have been a homer pick, although I think you're dismissing it too quickly. Frankly, I was having trouble remembering great LT's. I'm not a big Ogden fan. Freeney abused him and made him look silly last year. Pace and Jones are legitimate options though. The thing about Armstrong is that he played in an era against some of the games greatest pass rushers and he always did extremely well against them. Bruce Smith, Reggie White, LT, Derrick Thomas, the list goes on and on.

Bruce Armstrong MIGHT have been a homer pick? Richmond Webb is considered in some circles as the best left tackle of his era and he does'nt even crack the top ten. Off the top of my head I can name 7 guys I'd put EASILY ahead of Armstrong(Munoz, Shell, Slater, Jones, Pace, Ogden, Dierdorf).

I'd even put names like Richmond Webb, Gary Zimmerman, Tony Boselli and William Roaf ahead of Armstrong.

Rebuttal?

Seymour IS the best in the league right now but I agree, it is premature to put him on the Best Ever List. See, I can be reasonable. He sure does have an amazing resume. Four years in the league and he's already a 3 time All-Pro and 3 time Super Bowl Champion.

I'd take Kris Jenkins over Seymour today, tomorrow and twice on Sundays.

Yes, he has three rings but I think he had a little bit of help in that regard.

Tippet was widely considered the best LB of his day not named LT. He was a force against the run and the pass and his 35.5 sacks over a two year period might even be a record.

Ricky Jackson made more Pro Bowls and had better numbers. Guys like Carl Banks, Wilbur Marshall and Otis Wilson are also comparable. Calling Tippett "the best LB of his era not named LT" is almost pointless. I rank Tippett on par with Ricky Jackson and Carl Banks...that would be a VERY far behind L.T.

I stand by Law 100 percent and he most certainly IS the best CB in the game right now, when healthy, anyway. Who's better? Champ Bailey? Please....Bailey has always been more hype than substance.

Bailey is overrated and for a time Law was the best there is...FOR A TIME. they sure did miss him last year did'nt they? He's also still in a wheelchair.

You guys are just a bunch of unobjective homers. The Patriots are the greatest team ever and will eventually prove that as they win more championships than any team ever has.

Unobjective homer???? I'm VERY objective. I did'nt see me making a list and calling John Offerdahl the greatest middle linebacker of all time.

The Patriots are a damn good team and the team to beat. Calling them the best team ever is ludicrous. I'll take the Steel Curtain Steelers, the Cowboys of the 90's, the 49er's of the 80's or the UNDEFEATED 2 time World Champion Miami Dolphins of the 70's over todays Patriots everyday of the week.

 

[byroan]

The name you were searching for was TONY Eason.

As for Brady being better than Marino......ABSOLUTELY!!!! It's NO contest.

What good is a quarterback who can't come through in the BIG spots??? Performance under pressure in the clutch is the only way to judge QB's.

With that being said.....

QB: Joe Montana, Tom Brady, John Elway
RB: J.Brown, W.Payton, L.Tomlinson
FB: ??? (The position has changed so much. It depends on what you're looking for).
WR: J.Rice, R.Moss, I.Bruce, Sterling Sharpe
TE: T.Gonzalez, S.Sharpe, B.Coates
LT: B.Armstrong
LG: John Hannah (Gene Upshaw as back up)
C: Mike Webster (Dwight stephenson)
RG: Larry Allen
RT: Anthony Munoz

DE: Reggie White, Deacon Jones, Bruce Smith
DT: Joe Greene, Richard Seymour, Warren Sapp
NT: Ted Washington (There's never been anyone like him. He's not just big, he's athletic)
OLB: Jr.Seau, L.Taylor, A.Tippett
MLB: M.Singletary, D.Butkus, R.Lewis
CB: Rod Woodson, Mike Haynes, Ty Law
FS: Carnell Lake, K.Houston
SS: Ronnie Lott, R.Harrison

I know you're not calling anyone a homer. :shakeno: Your list sucks.

 

[unifiedtheory]

29 of 50 for 318 yds, 1 TD, 2 Int's..........67 Rating..........LOSS (SF 38-16)
20 of 48 for 248 yds, 2 TD, 2 Int's..........55 Rating..........LOSS (NE 31-14)
23 of 49 for 323 yds, 3 TD, 2 Int's..........72 Rating..........LOSS (Buf 44-34)
22 of 45 for 268 yds, 1 TD, 2 Int's..........57 Rating..........LOSS (Buf 29-10)
17 of 43 for 141 yds, 0 TD, 2 Int's..........29 Rating..........LOSS (NE 17-3)
26 of 37 for 243 yds, 0 TD, 2 Int's.........65 Rating..........LOSS (Den 38-3)
11 of 25 for 95 yds, 1 TD, 2 Int's..........35 Rating...............LOSS (Jac 62-7)
_____________________________________________________________
TOTALS:
148 of 297 (48.9%) for 1636, 8 TD, 14 Int's..........56 QB Rating

While we are HANDPICKING games to point out:

Vs. Seattle... W,31-10 ... 21 of 34... 262yd... 3td 2int
Vs. Pitt.... W,45-28... 21 of 32... 421yd... 4td 1int
Vs. Clev. ... W,24-21... 25 of 45... 238yd... 1td 1int
Vs. K.C.... W,17-16 ... 19 of 30... 221yd ... 2td 0int
Vs. S.D.... W,31-0 ... 17 of 29... 167yd... 3td 0int
Vs. KC ... W,27-17 ... 22 of 29... 257yd... 2td 0int
Vs. Buff.... W,24-17... 23 of 34... 235yd ... 1td 1int
Vs. Sea.... W,20-17 ... 17 of 30 ... 196yd... 1td 0int

 

[unifiedtheory]

This thread is fun.:D

 

[painnotpleasure]

Offense:
QB: Dan Marino, John Elway, Warren Moon
RB: Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith
FB: Jim Brown
WR: Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, Cris Carter, Andre Reed, Tim Brown
TE: Shannon Sharpe, Kellen Winslow Sr.
OG: Russ Grimm, Gene Upshaw
C: Mike Webster, Dwight Stephenson
OT: Anthony Munoz, Richmond Webb

Defense:
DE: Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Deacon Jones
DT: Merlin Olsen, Bob Lilly, Joe Greene
LB: Lawrence Taylor, Dick Butkus, Jack Lambert, Jack Ham
CB: Rod Woodson, Mel Blount, Deion Sanders, Darrell Green
S: Ronnie Lott, Ken Houston

Special Teams:
K: Jan Stenerud
P: Ray Guy
PR: Billy Johnson
KR: Brian Mitchell

Edit: That is my list, it's not based on numbers, or any kind of statistical references, it's based on who i think had the most impact at any position during the years that i have watched Football. It may be that i have the all time leading Passer, Dan Marino as my number one QB, but even as a Phin fan i look at it as who got the job done, who won games, who had the ability, who was able to lead, comeback ect.

And WCU, your totally right about Sanders, without him they aren't even 5-11 i mean what were they the year after he retired? 2-14! I mean he had so much impact on that team, and was such a great player, thats why he's my number one running back.

Great team! :up:

 

[Ozzy]

The name you were searching for was TONY Eason.

As for Brady being better than Marino......ABSOLUTELY!!!! It's NO contest.

What good is a quarterback who can't come through in the BIG spots??? Performance under pressure in the clutch is the only way to judge QB's.

With that being said.....

QB: Joe Montana, Tom Brady, John Elway

How clueless some people are! You put Brady on the exact same team, with the exact same teamates, yes, including the DEFENSES that Marino had, and he fails miserably.

Let me clue you in on something. Brady is a damn good Qb, but when Miami played NE the last 3-4 years, I never once thought to myself, oh my here comes Brady. I always thought to myself, how can Miami beat this TEAM.

Teams feared playing Marino, not the Dolphins, who had no running game, and even less of a defense.

 

[Ozzy]

You guys are just a bunch of unobjective homers. The Patriots are the greatest team ever and will eventually prove that as they win more championships than any team ever has.

Peace,

);p

Speaking of homer, tell us when your mighty team goes undefeated, then maybe we will listen to you about the greatest team ever. Until then, the Miami Dolphins have that tag......17-0

 

[DaFish]

Speaking of homer, tell us when your mighty team goes undefeated, then maybe we will listen to you about the greatest team ever. Until then, the Miami Dolphins have that tag......17-0

Hell Yeah!!!

 

[campeonaso]

nice team

 

[DolphinDevil28]

QB-Dan Marino
RB-Barry Sanders
FB-Larry Csonka
TE-Tony Gonzalaz(sp)
WR-Randy Moss
WR-Terrell Owens
WR-Jerry Rice
LT-Orlando Pace
LG-Larry Allen
C-Olin Krutez
RG-Gene Upshaw
RT-J. Gross as my shocker..lol I like him. I think he'll do great things.

DE-Deacon Jones
DT-Warren Sapp
DT- Joe Greene
DE-Reggie White
LB-Junior Seau
MLB-Dick Butkus
LB-Lawrence Taylor
CB-Sam Madison
CB-Deion Sanders
FS-Ed Reed(not sure/fs/ss
SS-Jeff Lynch

:yeahthat:

Except!....

TE: Shannon Sharpe.

3rd WR: Lynn Swann.

LT: Anthony Munoz.

C: Dwight Stephenson.

"other" DE: Bruce Smith.

Otherwise, GREAT Squad.

Good job. My congrats...

 

[godfater21]

Here is my list.


Head Coach

John Madden

Offense

QB Sammy Baugh
QB Otto Graham
QB Joe Montana

RB Jim Brown
RB Bronko Nagurski
RB Walter Payton

WR Lance Alworth
WR Raymond Berry
WR Don Hutson
WR Jerry Rice

TE Mike Ditka
TE Kellen Winslow

T Roosevelt Brown
T Forrest Gregg
T Anthony Muñoz

G John Hannah
G Jim Parker
G Gene Upshaw

C Mel Hein
C Mike Webster

Defense

DE David (Deacon) Jones
DE Gino Marchetti
DE Reggie White

DT Joe Greene
DT Bob Lilly
DT Merlin Olsen

LB Dick Butkus
LB Jack Ham
LB Ted Hendricks
LB Ray Nitschke
LB Lawrence Taylor

CB Mel Blount
CB Mike Haynes
CB Dick (Night Train) Lane
CB Rod Woodson

S Ken Houston
S Ronnie Lott
S Larry Wilson

Specialists

P Ray Guy
K Jan Stenerud

PR Billy (White Shoes) Johnson
KR Gale Sayers

 

[DolphinDevil28]

Here is my list.


Head Coach

John Madden

Offense

QB Sammy Baugh
QB Otto Graham
QB Joe Montana

RB Jim Brown
RB Bronko Nagurski
RB Walter Payton

WR Lance Alworth
WR Raymond Berry
WR Don Hutson
WR Jerry Rice

TE Mike Ditka
TE Kellen Winslow

T Roosevelt Brown
T Forrest Gregg
T Anthony Muñoz

G John Hannah
G Jim Parker
G Gene Upshaw

C Mel Hein
C Mike Webster

Defense

DE David (Deacon) Jones
DE Gino Marchetti
DE Reggie White

DT Joe Greene
DT Bob Lilly
DT Merlin Olsen

LB Dick Butkus
LB Jack Ham
LB Ted Hendricks
LB Ray Nitschke
LB Lawrence Taylor

CB Mel Blount
CB Mike Haynes
CB Dick (Night Train) Lane
CB Rod Woodson

S Ken Houston
S Ronnie Lott
S Larry Wilson

Specialists

P Ray Guy
K Jan Stenerud

PR Billy (White Shoes) Johnson
KR Gale Sayers

Sorry, I dont' mean to insult, I really don't.

But, that is horrible. You left several of the game's all-time greats out of your team.