An Excellent Article that Gives Insight Into Tanneyhills Troubles and D's Problems

[NBP81]

If a receiver runs a certain route there is a time when he is not ready. If you send Wallace down the field he is not ready for the pass after 10 yards. His focus is going downfield. Just because is throwing a ball at a receiver whenever he feels like it doesn't make the receiver ready for it. This is not sandlot football. Routes are designed for a reason and with purpose.

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Tannehill's first option. That does not mean it was the correct one or the design of the play. The video supports that Miller was the first option.

It really doesnt...

 

[phins_4_ever]

Your so lost it's hilarious...ha ha...spend some of that 13k to learn the game...you need it

I doubt that. Call your 'sources'.

 

[hoops]

I am lost. I am terrible at X's and O's

But if Miller sees a free blitzer what good does having a second receiving option do? It seems like that would be a pretty terrible play design.

Where is the blitz coming from roy

 

[hoops]

That's justin Houston an olb coming free at the top...the oline has slanted down to pick up the inside blitzers the tackle lets Houston go and picks up an inside man do any of you in any part of you think Lamar miller does anything there if he engages Houston but gets steam rolled?

And again if it was a hot miller would release and present his numbers to the qb...he's releasing down the seam

It is absolutely the correct decision by the qb...

 

[phins_4_ever]

I am lost. I am terrible at X's and O's

But if Miller sees a free blitzer what good does having a second receiving option do? It seems like that would be a pretty terrible play design.

Not really. It could happen that Miller gets engaged with the blocker, tangled up...whatever. Therefore you have a second option.
Hartline definitely looks like running a slant but he turns when the ball arrives. Now what does the text book tell us when a receiver makes a double move on a slant route to shake a DB? Hoopsie can tell you. I save you the time. Most commonly the receiver goes vertical between 6 and 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. Let's count shall we? Hartline attempts to go vertical 7 yards from the line of scrimmage to shake the DB. Hartline runs his route perfectly making him the secondary receiver.

This is actually a wonderful video. You see both targets clearly. The pocket is not collapsing. The blitz is coming from Miller's side. Perfect play call against this defensive with poor execution.

We can argue now that either two receivers were on the wrong play or Tannehill just saw Hartline as the hot target.

 

[phins_4_ever]

If he throws to Miller on that play it probably gets batted down. If Miller hooks around to where the logo is I could see the complaining. Miller just kind of floats there so there would be no lane to get him the ball.

This is not an uncommon play though and most QBs toss it over the rusher. It requires touch definitely.

 

[truedolfan57]

Not really. It could happen that Miller gets engaged with the blocker, tangled up...whatever. Therefore you have a second option.
Hartline definitely looks like running a slant but he turns when the ball arrives. Now what does the text book tell us when a receiver makes a double move on a slant route to shake a DB? Hoopsie can tell you. I save you the time. Most commonly the receiver goes vertical between 6 and 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. Let's count shall we? Hartline attempts to go vertical 7 yards from the line of scrimmage to shake the DB. Hartline runs his route making him the secondary receiver.

This is actually a wonderful video. You see both targets clearly. The pocket is not collapsing. The blitz is coming from Miller's side. Perfect play call against this defensive with poor execution.

We can argue now that either two receivers were on the wrong play or Tannehill just saw Hartline as the hot target.

are you talking about this play?

if so, you make no sense.

 

[NBP81]

Not really. It could happen that Miller gets engaged with the blocker, tangled up...whatever. Therefore you have a second option.
Hartline definitely looks like running a slant but he turns when the ball arrives. Now what does the text book tell us when a receiver makes a double move on a slant route to shake a DB? Hoopsie can tell you. I save you the time. Most commonly the receiver goes vertical between 6 and 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. Let's count shall we? Hartline attempts to go vertical 7 yards from the line of scrimmage to shake the DB. Hartline runs his route perfectly making him the secondary receiver.

This is actually a wonderful video. You see both targets clearly. The pocket is not collapsing. The blitz is coming from Miller's side. Perfect play call against this defensive with poor execution.

We can argue now that either two receivers were on the wrong play or Tannehill just saw Hartline as the hot target.

Yeah Hartline is running a double move while the D sends 7 guys on the pass rush... Come on man!

 

[hoops]

6 and 10 yards on a quick slant...Wtf...he's running the slant to the sticks like he should be against blitz...a 5 yard route pretty much

 

[phins_4_ever]

are you talking about this play?

if so, you make no sense.

OK. We do it easy.

Just look at Miller's route. Just Miller. Let's the rusher go and places himself behind him. He let's him go on purpose. This makes him automatically the go-to guy because Tannehill is facing an unblocked defender. The throw goes against the blitz.

Now look at Harline. You see him running a slant route. But at about 7 yards from the line of scrimmage he turns upfield. His double move is stopped though because the ball arrives.

Now put both routes together and it is clear that Miller is the first option and Hartline the second. Of course the distraction is that Tannehill never looks to Miller and just focuses on Hartline. It gives you the impression that Hartline was the go-to guy from the get-go.

It looks that receivers and QB were on different pages. But there is probably no way that two receivers could run appropriate routes at the same time and be actually right. Tannehill probably was the one who was right. Better?

 

[nick1]

lol dude stop embarrassing yourself. its ok you can hate tannehill and admit he made a good read on 1 play

 

[DolphinDynasty]

Hopefully you are spelling his last name wrong on purpose. Either way the post loses credibility for the error.

 

[nick1]

OK. We do it easy.

Just look at Miller's route. Just Miller. Let's the rusher go and places himself behind him. He let's him go on purpose. This makes him automatically the go-to guy because Tannehill is facing an unblocked defender. The throw goes against the blitz.

Now look at Harline. You see him running a slant route. But at about 7 yards from the line of scrimmage he turns upfield. His double move is stopped though because the ball arrives.

Now put both routes together and it is clear that Miller is the first option and Hartline the second. Of course the distraction is that Tannehill never looks to Miller and just focuses on Hartline. It gives you the impression that Hartline was the go-to guy from the get-go.

It looks that receivers and QB were on different pages. But there is probably no way that two receivers could run appropriate routes at the same time and be actually right. Tannehill probably was the one who was right. Better?

after the ball hit his hands he turned upfield for the first down. clearly we see a different play

 

[phins_4_ever]

6 and 10 yards on a quick slant...Wtf...he's running the slant to the sticks like he should be against blitz...a 5 yard route pretty much

Dude can you read?
I said that he is running a slant but then attempts to turn upfield which on a typical double move like that happens after about 6-10 yards from the line of scrimmage. And he is attempting to go vertical approx 7 yards from the line of scrimmage. It would be a text book route. Unfortunately we only see a brief moment of the turn because the pass arrived at that moment.

You are too focused on Tannehill making Hartline the primary receiver and never considering that Tannehill may have been wrong.

 

[phins_4_ever]

Hopefully you are spelling his last name wrong on purpose. Either way the post loses credibility for the error.

Talking to me?