any takers on JJ Watt, Im all in/To be released
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here has to be some of the thinking IF you could get Watt with a 3rd rounder. he has actually played all games 2 out of his last 3 years. I would want to possibly try to trade back in the 3rd round and see if they would still take that third rounder. I feel like you would just be potentially deferring your 3rd round pick for 2 years.
Heres the thing, its either win/win or lose/lose. If it works out and Watt puts about 8-9 sacks and stays healthy then you hope that potentially someone signs him to a nice 2 year 30 million contract in 2022. so if you trade a 3rd for him, you'll probably pick up a comp 3rd round pick for him in return. so if you can make the money work and he has a good season, you are just basically deferering your 3rd til 2023 meaning he cost us nothing but one years salary.
now if he gets hurt or sucks and he is only able to sign a prove it contract when he becomes a FA in 2022, then its lose lose, cause you got nothing out of him and wont get any comp.
I dont want to invest in older guys, BUT if its a risk the team would feel like taking, it can be justified by saying you can probably get the draft pick back
Heres the thing, its either win/win or lose/lose. If it works out and Watt puts about 8-9 sacks and stays healthy then you hope that potentially someone signs him to a nice 2 year 30 million contract in 2022. so if you trade a 3rd for him, you'll probably pick up a comp 3rd round pick for him in return. so if you can make the money work and he has a good season, you are just basically deferering your 3rd til 2023 meaning he cost us nothing but one years salary.
now if he gets hurt or sucks and he is only able to sign a prove it contract when he becomes a FA in 2022, then its lose lose, cause you got nothing out of him and wont get any comp.
I dont want to invest in older guys, BUT if its a risk the team would feel like taking, it can be justified by saying you can probably get the draft pick back
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Leonard Williams will not cost just 10-11mil per.
He played last year at 16.1mil, and had a career year.
It's going to be closer to the 20mil mark.
I wanted us to trade for him at the deadline last year.
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I’m in if we get Watson as well. Might as well go for it all.
Ok so you guys are lost on this topic. Let me help you.
Watt will not be traded. His contract is far too large for any team to trade for, considering his age and lack of production. The Texans are likely to cut Watt for cap savings so giving the Texans an asset for Watt is just ignorant.
Wait for Watt to get cut and try to sign him, if we are even interested, which I doubt we are.
The Watt family lives in Wisconsin so the likely team he will sign with would be the Packers.
If the Texans trade Watson they may keep Watt to avoid the fan backlash of losing Watt and Watson in the same offseason.
Watt will not be traded. His contract is far too large for any team to trade for, considering his age and lack of production. The Texans are likely to cut Watt for cap savings so giving the Texans an asset for Watt is just ignorant.
Wait for Watt to get cut and try to sign him, if we are even interested, which I doubt we are.
The Watt family lives in Wisconsin so the likely team he will sign with would be the Packers.
If the Texans trade Watson they may keep Watt to avoid the fan backlash of losing Watt and Watson in the same offseason.
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There’s are creative ways to trade him. The Texans could turn most of this salary into a signing bonus and then trade him so he fits under most teams cap. It’s possible where draft comp comes into play.
No. Older than what Flores seems to want on the team right now.
Nice of you to show up in this thread and advise us on this and reasons to trade for Watson in those threads.
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Just going off of projections at Sportrac. He did make $16.1 million on a one year deal. Those one year deals usually have inflated $ amounts. I want to point out that I am not saying go get Williams, my point was that he is a better target than JJ Watt at this point in their careers. I do not believe for one minute that Williams gets $20 million per in this offseason of lowered team cap due to covid.
A 3rd for Watt? Christ no.
No interest at all.
i dont want to do it. i was just saying in theory if thats what the FO wanted to do. u could potentially find ways to potentially justify or offset the cost.
hes not worth a first rounder not even close but he could come relatively cheap and would accelerate this defense growth in the short term
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I think he is one of the guys on the Dolphins short list of pass rushers, and IMHO, he's definitely one they're looking at for the #18 spot. He's a little like Ogbah was coming out of college in that he has a tremendous amount of untapped potential, and this coaching staff has shown a real proclivity to give those types a shot, both with FA's like Ogbah, Lawson, and Taco Charlton, as well as draft picks like Noah Igbinoghene. If a guy has athletic ability, they believe they can get him to perform. But what I like best about Coach Flo's approach is that he shows that Patriot ruthlessness of giving lots of guys a chance, but making a quick decision to cut them loose and move on to other prospects. No danger of the Dallas Thomas' of the world hanging on for years wasting other opportunities.